Emir wrote:
To give you the clue, even RMK is usually the least important part of the flight plan, it’s expected to contain relevant information.
The information about the dog is indeed a remark, but it should not be put as a RMK/ in item 18 of the flight plan. It should be put after N/ in item 19 (Supplementary information).
Item 18 includes operationally relevant remarks, which this is not, while item 19 includes SAR relevant remarks.
When I had small children I used to include remarks such as “ONE PAX INFANT” in item 19.
Fair enough – the RMK section is the way to go then!
I can imagine question marks when ATC read this RMK 
To give you the clue, even RMK is usually the least important part of the flight plan, it’s expected to contain relevant information.
BTW Zorro usually prefers to remain silent when ATC is in the question.
Fair enough – the RMK section is the way to go then! I’ve been flying much more with my dog nowadays and every time I fill out a flight plan and make radio calls I somehow feel I’m missing something.
By the way, sometime this summer I will fly direct from Amsterdam to Dublin and then back to London with said canine and will report if there are any issues with this.
Imagine S&R in difficult conditions for the rescuers. They are putting their lives at risk to rescue you.
They see 2 POB and only manage to find one (possibly dead or unconscious). So they keep searching for the other person and perhaps in conditions where they really should give up for their own safety, but hoping to find that other person ( who they don’t know is a dog).
POB= people.
If you think they should know for some reason (eg in case you think that the dog might attack a rescuer and so they should be cautious when attempting to open the cabin) then you could add it as a remark under other information. But not POB.
RMK/One dog on board
Quick question – should we be including the dog as a POB in our flight plans and radio calls? I imagine this information would be useful for search and rescue.
Absolutely no, how on earth did you come to that idea?
I understand that a lot of people consider their pets part of the family but let’s be reasonable here.
Can you explain how this would be useful for SAR?
Would you report the number of bags you carry onboard expecting SAR to retrieve them in case of accident?
Quick question – should we be including the dog as a POB in our flight plans and radio calls? I imagine this information would be useful for search and rescue.
I contacted DEFRA asking clearly for the rules for both flying to France/Ireland and returning. I chose those two countries because, as we are aware, Republic of Ireland has different rules.
Here’s the response in full.
Good morning,
Thank you for your enquiry. We cannot confirm whether you can enter the EU on a private vessel/aircraft, you will need to speak with the competent authorities of the Eu member state you wish to enter however, please note that your dog cannot re-enter the UK on a private aircraft and must enter the UK by use of an Approved route. Please see the information below.
If you have any further questions regarding pet travel, please get in touch.
Private Vessels – Boats and Aircraft
Only transport companies that have been approved by Defra may be used to bring dogs, cats and ferrets into Great Britain under the Pet Travel Scheme (PETS). These animals must also travel on an authorised route.
Animals may not be imported into Great Britain on private boats or aircraft, unless traveling from Ireland. Pets can only come into the UK on a private boat or plane if you’re travelling from Ireland.
For the latest information on approved transport companies and routes, please visit the PETS website at https://www.gov.uk/take-pet-abroad/approved-routes or ring the PETS Helpline on 03702 411710 (open Monday to Friday – 08.30 to 17:00 UK time). Please note that route lists shown on the PETS website are regularly updated and you should check before you book that you have the latest list.
Private vessels – Channel Islands
I can confirm that there is free movement for animals travelling within the UK, including the Channel Islands. Therefore, you will not require any documentation in order to transport your pet under the Pet Travel Scheme. I would, however, suggest that you contact your chosen carrier to check whether they have any further requirements as often a health certificate is requested in order to transport your animal, this documentation is not part of the Pet Travel Scheme.
Please be advised that whilst there is free movement between the UK and the Channel Islands, it is prohibited to bring a pet into Great Britain on a private boat from another country. We therefore advise that you may wish to keep a ship’s log, noting which ports you have entered in order to avoid problems with port officials on re-entry to Great Britain.
If you were to encounter problems whilst out at sea and, for example, had to make an emergency stop in a French port for repairs, your dog would require quarantine on re-entry to Great Britain. We therefore recommend you have your dog prepared under the Pet Travel Scheme (PETS) to avoid such risks.
Refuelling, private aircraft.
Please be advised that while it should be possible for a private aircraft to land for refuelling in Great Britain (subject to the airports agreement) any dog or cat travelling on said aircraft will not under any circumstances be allowed off the vehicle.
If the dog in question was to disembark from the aircraft, this would be deemed an illegal landing and would be licensed into quarantine by the Local Trading Standards.
Not Landed
Pets that are not intended to be landed can be brought to the UK on board private boats. However, they must inform the Port health Authority/Harbourmaster and these animals must at all times be restrained and kept securely confined within a totally enclosed part of the boat from which it cannot escape. If an animal is lost from a vessel in port, the Master of the vessel is required to report the loss to an Animal Health Inspector, the police or an officer of Customs and Excise.
Private individual requesting approval
Unfortunately it is not possible for a private individual to become an authorised pet carrier as the Non Commercial Movement of Pet Animals Order Art 2 defines “carrier” and Art 11 defines “approval of carriers” which effectively refers to “carrying goods or passengers for hire by land sea or air “.
The manner in which official controls are conducted, such as those required to be undertaken by authorised carriers, is regulated by retained EU community law and National law which states that these controls must be conducted with objectivity and impartiality; criteria which cannot be met by an individual checking their own pet.
Travel around the UK
Pets may sail around the UK on a private boat after first entering on an approved route. We suggest that you obtain proof of the pet checks when you bring the dog over on the ferry and keep this with you during your travels. It would also be best to keep a log of places you have visited in the UK
Private Vessels – Via ROI or NI before entry into GB
Pets should be compliant with our entry requirements. Therefore, all the usual documentation and health checks apply, so you will need to be able to show that the pet was checked for compliance in the ROI/NI. Otherwise, it would be treated as an illegal landing from third country when entering GB or maybe even unknown origin if there was no paper trail available. This is because pets can only enter via private aircraft/boats if they are arriving from Ireland.
Please also be aware that we no longer accept the same paperwork as the ROI or NI so you may need to get further documentation from Ireland.
You must ensure that you can comply with the Irish requirements for travel to Ireland. ROI: https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/21d40-pet-travel/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/en/service/28ae66-pet-travel/#bringing-your-pet-dog-cat-or-ferret-into-ireland-by-private-transport-aircraftyacht NI: https://www.daera-ni.gov.uk/articles/travelling-pets
Kind Regards
Vicki Benson
Administrative Officer
Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA)
Helpline Telephone Number 03000 200 301
Email: Website: www.gov.uk/apha | Twitter: @APHAgovuk | Facebook: aphagov
Address: Eden Bridge House, Lowther Street, Carlisle, CA3 8DX
So, from the email, my understanding is that:
I’m aware that in the US, there are particular rules (“the pet must be at least eight weeks old, be fully weaned and be in good health”)
If it isn’t already clear from @NCYankee‘s post, the intent here is to prevent customers from importing puppies ordered from commercial breeders overseas before they are fit to travel on CAT.
Why anybody would do that is another question.
