ATC responses

MOR?
You are free to pass them without a call, but as there’s a multitude of traffic they may have, that can cause you and them an issue, how are you supposed to know there will be no conflict without calling?
I think that’s spectacularly poor form.
Technically we can fly through MATZ right up to the ATZ. So if we all exercise that right are they ok with that too?

Civil servants are allowed bad days too

If radiating A+C minimum, the radio call is just a gesture of politeness.

I usually get the exact opposite, in that ATC for a MATZ think their area of responsibility is much higher, e.g.:

• Last week, 1500ft above Brize Norton: “you have entered my airspace without clearance”
• This summer, 500ft above Boscombe Down: “turn heading 030”
• Last year, 1000ft above Benson: “you need to route east or west of my ATZ”

You’ve got time to prepare a cutting reply for the next time it happens

Capitaine wrote:

Last week, 1500ft above Brize Norton: “you have entered my airspace without clearance”
This summer, 500ft above Boscombe Down: “turn heading 030”
Last year, 1000ft above Benson: “you need to route east or west of my ATZ”

Are those heights/altitudes above the ground or above the ATZ / CTR?

Graham wrote:

Are those heights/altitudes above the ground or above the ATZ / CTR?

Above the ceiling of the MATZ/CTR, so not in their airspace at all. E.g. at 5,000 feet when their maximum vertical extent is 3,500ft.

Capitaine wrote:

I usually get the exact opposite, in that ATC for a MATZ think their area of responsibility is much higher, e.g.:

Last week, 1500ft above Brize Norton: “you have entered my airspace without clearance”
This summer, 500ft above Boscombe Down: “turn heading 030”
Last year, 1000ft above Benson: “you need to route east or west of my ATZ”

I might be missing something, but doesn’t Brize Norton have a CTR and don’t you need a clearance in the ATZ of a towered airport?

Airborne_Again wrote:

I might be missing something

No, it’s my lack of precision. I was x hundred feet above the top of their airspace in all three cases, so not subject to them at all.

So the lesson is…

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@Fenland_Flyer that is atrocious but I have heard worse, although mostly not in the UK. You should name the airfield