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With ATIS: Told usually circuit direction on initial contact and “Report xxx” request. Later: " land at your discretion."

Maoraigh
EGPE, United Kingdom

ch.ess wrote:

If I hear that you are at a certain distance to the airfield or, as an example, on the downwind leg, I might still roll up and take off.
Would that not be OK (in NOrway) ?

Certainly not OK. But the situation is artificially constructed, it wouldn’t happen. The AIP explains all this. The whole point is that when you receive a “runway free”, you can use it without others coming on your way. In your example, you would have received a “runway occupied”, meaning you are not to use the runway. It’s just that I wouldn’t get a “runway free” far out there if there are other traffic closer.

I would only go and land with eyes closed if I hear “runway is exclusive” as it seems better than “runway is free” ?

Last Edited by Ibra at 12 Sep 22:38
ESSEX, United Kingdom

Thanks – as a follow up question: to what extent does that transfer the/any responsibility to the AFIS personnel ? (We are not talking ATC)

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EDM_, Germany

Thanks – as a follow up question: to what extent does that transfer the/any responsibility to the AFIS personnel ? (We are not talking ATC)

None whatsoever. Think of them as an information IO relay kind of transaction thing. The largest users of these AFIS airports are airlines and ambulance aircraft. The system is ancient, it has “always” been like this AFAIK, since the 1950-60s at least. It’s the (commercial) pilots and companies who want it like this, and this is how it is. I got no better explanation.

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