See here.
So:
So, in essence: no matter if you fly with paper charts or with electronic ones, you will NOT have these airspace changes depicted before April 2021.
For a change, it is not Skydemon’s fault, but that of the French DGAC, who don’t seem to acknowledge that most users fly with electronic charts nowadays, and that these people could have the updated data straight away, if DGAC made a timely AIP AIRAC change…
boscomantico wrote:
For a change, it is not Skydemon’s fault, but that of the French DGAC
They are still working hard and busy on publishing IAP plates in a proper format rather than textual information
Well, in France, airspace, frequencies etc… really change only each year in April. (When the IGN VFR chart is issued )
Few people are aware of what changes the rest of the year. DGAC is very well aware of that. But it doesn’t explain this.
You can just download the text and maps from the SIA website free of charge.
Skydemon and others could include them if they so wished. Our club has copies of the maps and changes pinned to the wall. The FFA are also providing links to them.So what’s the problem?
gallois wrote:
So what’s the problem?
The problem is that there is a standard procedure for these things and DGAC isn’t following them if they wait five months before publishing an AIRAC change. The AIRAC system is intended precisely so that changes can be promulgated timely and on a known schedule. SD depends on this. The SD people say that they don’t have the resources to handle flight information in non-standard ways
gallois wrote:
So what’s the problem?
You don’t have it on GTN after 4 months updates
Given that most fly with satnav apps, and these apps update from AIRAC cycles, this is not the way to do it.
It raises the Q of where a pilot should brief from, to be 100% legal. It says the charts are worthless; you are supposed to draw your own from the AIP coordinate data Every time you fly.
On French notams a SUP AIP is noted and a number given. You just go to the SUP section of the SIA website.
They are mostly used for military exercises.
We are taught to read all Notams and SUPs before each flight.
Although Covid is causing some SUPs in certain areas.
As I understand it the DGAC are following ICAO guidelines and EASA regs to the letter.
It is certainly true that VFR charts are only a device to deliver ICAO mandated data publishing requirements – as suggested here in a specifically French scenario.
It’s tricky in practice. For example I busted a TRA in France in 2003, which didn’t feature on the VFR charts and for some reason didn’t come up in notams. You would catch out most pilots that way.
gallois wrote:
As I understand it the DGAC are following ICAO guidelines and EASA regs to the letter.
Again, the whole point of the AIRAC system is that changes be promulgated in advance on a known schedule. Publishing major changes and new procedures initially as AIP SUP and as AIRAC only five months later may be following the regs to the letter but it is not how the system is intended to work.