Tried all 3 emails… (@)
I used @ off course ;)
Unlike in the UK where the days of the week, months and other such start with a capital letter in France these things rarely do.
the domain must be case insensitive, but the local part (left of the @) is left to the site whether it is case-sensitive or insensitive.
I agree, and that is usually the actual implementation for websites, but to set up emails this way is asking for trouble. Only a govt agency could do something like this… especially dangerous with “immigration/customs PN” stuff where you never get an acknowledgement anyway, so they can bust you. My worst ever flying day was in Italy where I send several faxes (yes, fax in those days), having been unable to phone them (no answer) and they pretended to not have received them and refused a landing clearance when I was on final. Corfu also has a reputation for that. This stuff just has to work reliably, but of course a govt agency has no incentive to set it up right because the onus is on the pilot to notify.
Hello
Thank you for your comments and suggestion. It seems there is no single rule, instead it depends on the specific countries you are flying between. So apparently no easy answer to the question. But at least now I know where to look in the AIP.
@CLE the default position is that you need a C+I airport for both arrival and departure.
However, there is a considerable practical difference:
If you arrive, say from the UK, to an airport in say Germany which has no C+I, you are quite likely to get rapid police attention, and unless you did it as a Mayday, they won’t like it at all.
But if you fly from the same German airport, filed destination say Le Touquet in France, but you find Le Touquet has bad weather when you approach, and you divert to the UK, nothing is going to happen. It helps if you filed a GAR form for the UK arrival. And this situation arises quite often in GA. What you cannot do is put a UK destination on the flight plan; the departure airfield is likely to just cancel your flight plan, and I’ve seen that happen.
CLE wrote:
It seems there is no single rule
You need C+I on departure & arrival that’s the default rule, but few concessions here and there 
For France,
- You need INTL AD to enter/leave “customs union” (EU CU) see Art78 (for in) & Art119 (for out)
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006615467/2014-03-17
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006615654
List of INTL AD
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/system/files/2021-10/List%20of%20International%20Union%20Airports.pdf
- You need PPF AD to enter/leave “immigration union” (Shengen) but if your flight is crew only within EU CU you can still use any INTL AD as long as you PNR to police from nearest PPF AD (Art18, covers places like Croatia, Ireland)
List of PPF AD
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/JORFTEXT000043547009
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/download/pdf?id=nN7laakBzt5bokEMe5eJw3bBLuFm-kWoqBedL_cU8Ek=
- If you stay in Shengen you don’t need anything but I sugest you go to some unknown grass strip than some big airport when Shengen is temporary suspended
A bit complicated by the long answer is here,
For UK, you can read this
No idea for other countries as I don’t fly that often to know more than “the default rule”…
Ibra wrote:
For UK, you can read this
This is the latest guidance I can find for entry/exit to/from the UK (for simplicity, let’s say to/from Schengen area). Does anyone know if this is still current? My interpretation is that one can essentially fly to/from any airfield in the UK without needing to go through a customs airport, at least until the end of 2023, as long as one complies with the GAR submission requirements.
chflyer wrote:
at least until the end of 2023, as long as one complies with the GAR submission requirements.
That’s the case now, every airport in UK including private strips has blanket designation for customs/immigration by HMRC/UKBF for to/from EU including Switzerland, you just send GAR with the right PN…
Question re: C&I in Europe.
One aircraft (according to FAW) flew today directly from Bristol to LFPN (where C&I are impossible, apparently):
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/GFLYW/history/20231113/1102Z/EGGD/LFPN
How do they do it?
