“n the UK, the current guideline (often enforced like law at fuel stations is 10l in a plastic fuel can and 20 in a certified metal one.”
There’s an EU regulation allowing 199(?) litres for your own use. Has anything been done to continue this post Brexit in the UK?
I used to have a copy in my flightbag. Only once did I end up reading it to a Tesco girl.
Now I use Avgas because of the alcohol problem.
Guys, yes, I love to blow away the cobwebs from time to time. Hope no offence taken as none intended. Agreed, should use more of those since they’re free, here’s one 
@Silvaire, the 2 seaters designed by Van’s are sport aircraft, in the same line as sport cars. No relation to any heavy underpowered but overfeeding 4 or 6 seater being flown solo WOT. Ah yeah
The RV-10 is not playing in the Comanche’s court, but rather in the Cirrus one. Missing full IFR capabilities, but doing pretty well performance wise, payload, interior space, and performance. As for the looks…
So, we sure don’t wanna upset @Peter, so why don’t we paint some resemblance of heading back to the OP’s thread title: The end of AVGAS in Europe in 2025 ?
I’m not sure what percentage, or in what proportions, the active pilot, or rather the whole European aircraft community is represented here on EuroGA. But one thing transpiring is that aircraft requiring Avgas today are already in minority. Rotax powered airplanes are becoming very common now, ranging from trainers to ULs with amazing performance. And most homebuilts, as well as quite a few certifieds already take advantage of Mogas.
History shows that mainland EU fields Mogas offerings are expanding. In the past, almost all airfields used to provide Avgas, only. Then came the demand for Mogas, and prob 99 of those fields then added Mogas to the existing offer as either an additional pump, or a trailered tank, or bowser.
Now, assuming an Avgas replacement is happening in EU, the demand might be quite low…
PS
@Mooney_Driver, I now owe you a beer!
The RV-10 is not playing in the Comanche’s court, but rather in the Cirrus one. Missing full IFR capabilities, but doing pretty well performance wise, payload, interior space, and performance.
All three of them are playing in exactly the same court, including IFR capability. 60 years has made very little difference except that the newer planes (in this case the RV10 and Cirrus) have better attention to detail design in terms of parasitic drag reduction, while having a lower level of detail quality where that reduces manufacturing labor cost.
The engine on a Comanche 180 is exactly the same as that used on a two seat RV, and the 250 engine is the same as on the RV10. The structures on all of them are built in exactly the same way except that the wing is more sophisticated on the Comanche.
And all of them use the same fuel.
Silvaire wrote:
including IFR capability
Ok, I should have been more precise, the more so since you’re located in the US. As you know, IFR flying in EU (_Euro_GA ) is usually not legally approved in homebuilts. My thinking was more geared towards capability as in ice protection (specifically TKS), which at the moment is not available on the RV-10, but for the Cirrus.
Another point is that Piper stopped building them Comanches in the 70’s, so all the ones flying now are survivors, and can’t be purchased new.
End of Avgas in Europe in 2025?, anyone?
Dan wrote:
I should have been more precise, the more so since you’re located in the US. As you know, IFR flying in EU (_Euro_GA ) is usually not legally approved in homebuilts.
As per my post 79 there are quite a number of false ideas here, rooted in unfortunate and negative local politics plus lack of local infrastructure. One of them is the idea that high payload GA aircraft are “obsolete” by comparison with whatever lightweight type is of interest, they aren’t by any technical or practical measure, and another is that amateur built aircraft are incapable of IFR when it is done every day and is certainly what an RV10 is designed to do. It doesn’t help anybody to propagate dumb ideas that result from looking inward, not outward.
Dan wrote:
End of Avgas in Europe in 2025?, anyone?
It’s a typical European doomsday scenario, the product of politics and fear, this one being as unlikely as any of the others. There’s got to be a way to make money by investing in the opposite view and winning the bet, as you would 
