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GA activity and its decline

That must be because I had a Norwegian GF and a Swedish GF, in 1978, too

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

in 1978

In 1978 all women were different and much more tolerant. I can’t testify from personal experience (too young at that time) but I heard the stories.

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

Well, I don’t think GA is in decline just because someone had funny experiences with Scandinavian girls in 1978

IMO it’s not declining. It’s changing. As long as people can afford it, it won’t go away.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

They were very good experiences

But society, and social norms, are changing. People generally want to get everything faster and with less effort. GA doesn’t lend itself to that. There is a long learning curve (which the training business has no interest in doing anything about and anyway few would pay for it) which excludes a high % of people who would otherwise like to learn to fly. It takes a lot of dedication to pick up the PPL books and grind through the exams. Many people drop out right there.

The topic about a potentially limited choice of people to fly with is real (except in Sweden ) and it drives people into stuff like joining syndicates just so they have somebody to fly with. The reason this is a problem is that as one accumulates the hours, over years, the social side of flying becomes more important (for many).

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter, it may be important to consider that:

- an isolated experience and opinion of yours is not therefore a hard fact of life and society that must apply to everyone

- what you are saying has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the decline of GA

Last Edited by IO390 at 08 Apr 12:34
United Kingdom

Emir wrote:

My wife always says than I’m not aware how fortunate I am.

You’ve just proven otherwise. It makes me happy to read such reports, even more so if it concerns a very nice person.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

As a data point my girl said she would allow me to bring girls up on flights without her present if I would be happy to have her go on boat trips with other guys. I tried to explain how it’s not the same, but truth be told it kinda is.

But she’s perfectly happy to fly with me so I don’t care. It’s our job to have a spine and pick one that will share this big part of our life. It’s either me with flying with me or none of it what I offered to my girl.

ELLX, Luxembourg

It is not the same when one considers the “normal GA culture” where you take people up for flights quite normally. It’s just what us pilots do. Hang out at your local airport and see what goes on. BTW this is also a rich source of amusement at control towers It is completely normal if I am about to go for a local flight, and someone I know is walking past, I ask them if they fancy a flight. Most people do that. It’s a part of the culture.

The boating culture is quite different. For a start one isn’t usually going for a 1hr sail. Sailing involves far more faffing around. Even going for a sail in a dinghy (the very low end of “sailing”) is a load of faffing around because of different rigs for different winds, and usually the sailing club expects you to help out in weekend activities so there is a lot less individual activity… And higher up the food chain one definitely spends whole days on the boat even if not going anywhere.

But yes of course one can see her unspoken message, which was “no bloody way will I let you do such a thing”. Which is what I said earlier

an isolated experience and opinion of yours is not therefore a hard fact of life and society that must apply to everyone

Nobody has claimed thus, so, to use the old saying, play the ball and not the man! Or, you are arguing with a point which nobody has made. And as I suggested previously, get yourself a GF, see what you can get away with, and post the data here!

But she’s perfectly happy to fly with me

That is the best of all

It’s our job to have a spine and pick one that will share this big part of our life

That’s true, and many guys fail there miserably, but also many start that way and then things change years down the road.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

It may or may not be related, but I have heard it said that for reduced hassle when selecting a life partner men should never ‘let the little head do the thinking’.

EGLM & EGTN

Graham wrote:

I have heard it said that for reduced hassle when selecting a life partner men should never ‘let the little head do the thinking’.

LOL, true.

But looking at the state of the internet, the spam, the thriving industries targeting the “little head thinkers”, one does not have to wonder….

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland
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