I believe you have to touch the watch with your other hand (so you have top of watch as one electrode on one arm, bottom as electrode for the other arm).
It is FDA approved as a medical device, although not sure what the “approval” means
Yes, touch the crown with right hand finger when watch is on left hand. It works.
LeSving wrote:
If there is a correlation with resting heart rate and resting blood pressure, the BP should also go down by some amount (I hope )
I’m not sure there is. I’m very active (usually at least 7 hours of aerobic activity per week, of which about half is vigorous) and have a resting heart rate of 45 bpm, I am nowhere near overweight (I’m actually right in the middle of “normal weight” for my height), but when tested last week on a work health check, my BP was something like 140/90 which is way too close to “lose your medical” territory :-( While I can say some of this was due to the flu jab I was about to have (I have an irrational fear of injections, and the flu jab doesn’t even hurt, and noticed that my heart rate was racing along somewhere in the 70s during the test), I’ve ordered a BP monitor so I can check I don’t really have a problem.
alioth wrote:
I’m not sure there is. I’m very active (usually at least 7 hours of aerobic activity per week, of which about half is vigorous) and have a resting heart rate of 45 bpm
That’s a very good resting heart rate. I’m not sure there is any correlation either. Having read some more, it doesn’t seem like it is. But, I can still hope 
(until the opposite is proved). I guess it has more to do with a correlation that if you exercise regularly, you also tend to eat healthier, or something in that direction.
Just watched The Game Changers
Highly recommended if you want to improve things for yourself, not to mention making your medical last a lot longer
I did watch Game Changers, and while I appreciate the sentiment (I do more than half my meals vegan), it is is very unbalanced and the “science” behind it make me really cringe:
- There is no control experiments: You make people that eat unhealthy suddenly eat very healthy. Of course they are going to feel better. There is no control experiments whatsoever (e.g. healthy mediterranean diet) to compare with. Basically pretty much all the comparisons all seem to go “no attention to diet” <→ vegan. They should be doing a continued study on: No change in diet (for control), healthy omni diet, (healthy / not healthy) vegetarian diet, (healthy / not healthy (likely all that processed “fake cheese etc”0) vegan diet.
- They don’t mention that Baboumian (strongest man in the world) eats tons of supplements (sure, they are vegan), but not mentioning something as crucial as that in the diet (seems like half of it is protein shakes with many other supplements such as creatin) borders on the dishonest.
No mention of steroid use either..
- 20% more performance after eating beetroot.. hummm.. What does 20% really mean? Again, very misleading
- They don’t mention any obvious large experiments that could be made India for instance, has large parts of the population that are vegetarian or even vegan (Jain). How do all these populations compare in health terms?
The part about conflicts of interests… Doesn’t James Cameron have investments in Plant based stuff?
I am glad that this gets things moving in a direction that I think is beneficial to the world, and maybe this is a good way to change the less scientific amongst us (we are not many anyway), but this is a real propaganda “film”. It can’t be considered an “objective documentary”
I think the main value of that film is that it has a lot of role models going plant based, and obviously doing well on it, and that is what the vast majority of the population follows.
If it presented scientific data, most people would switch off after 5 mins
They left out Kim Kardashian who is apparently vegan
It also demolishes the often quoted idea that without meat you basically die; it debunks the protein myth.
The Med Diet is pretty good, if you actually eat it. A lot of olive oil is not good for the arteries. But not many do. In the Med countries, it is a big social thing to consume a huge quality of sweets and cakes. Throw in today’s general lack of physical exercise (TV, etc) and you get widespread obesity. In N Europe, seafood (of any quality) is expensive.
I also think it is best to avoid the term “vegan”. Veganism is a heavily “religious” / political (left wing / anti establishment / anti big-business) position nowadays, full of crazy people, which puts off many people from even looking at it. Many of the practitioners eat a lot of sweets and cakes (vegan, of course) and get really obese. Come to Brighton and see It is also virtually impossible to adhere to when travelling anywhere.
I think the main value of that film is that it has a lot of role models going plant based, and obviously doing well on it, and that is what the vast majority of the population follows.
We agree on this. But I fear the “propaganda” aspect of this film might put more objective people (e.g. lots of Euroga readers) off.
also think it is best to avoid the term “vegan”. Veganism is a heavily “religious” / political
I actually don’t see vegan as that, just like people don’t see yoga as that either. I think there might have been a stronger association a few years ago, but things are changing.
(…) It is also virtually impossible to adhere to when travelling anywhere
Is there a dietary difference between “vegan” and “plant based” (since you imply only vegan is hard to adhere)?
I essentially eat vegan at work (we get breakfast and lunch cooked for, or they pay us for our delivery orders), mostly because I want to avoid processed foods (poor quality meat / fish, for palate / health / ethical reasons). I do supplement with protein powder (because I do about 5-10 hours exercise a week, some of which is strength based). I also avoid all Vegan processed food (burgers / cheese). If I want these, I might as well splurge and a really good / high quality real thing.
I grew up with good / healthy food (except when I went to uni – eye roll), in cultures where meals are staples of socialisation. On Saturday, I had 25 guests at home for a Thanksgiving (yes, it’s early, but it’s for my american friends who go back to the US) turkey (13.5 kg, organic, direct from the producer), and certainly wouldn’t have gotten everyone (including myself) as excited / so festive if the table had been laid with salads / vegetables / pasta with tomato sauce!
That’s a balance that works well for me (and my health)
Noe wrote:
Is there a dietary difference between “vegan” and “plant based” (since you imply only vegan is hard to adhere)?
Vegans tend to be more picky about not exploiting animals in food production at all, eg strict vegans will often avoid even plant foods such as almonds which require intensive and often unnatural (eg feeding sugar syrup) use of bees. Followers of PB diets generally come to it primarily because of health considerations. Those who term themselves whole food plant based try not to eat processed plant foods, extracted oils, sugars etc which many vegans will happily munch on. In reality there is some convergence these days between more health conscious vegans and more ethically/environmentally conscious PBs. There are some difficulties in following either approach especially when travelling, but since everyone basically needs vegetables, fruits, grains etc to live on you can pretty much manage anywhere provided you are doing mainly self catering.
The GC movie is definitely having an effect. I belong to a number of non-animal health and fitness forums and have seen a notable increase in people joining up on these because of watching GC (in fact that is how I became aware of the film at all). It’s not a scientific analysis but it is clearly having an impact.
