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A new French cloud tops site

Seems I managed to translate his reply faithfully then :-)

Last Edited by Flyamax at 04 Sep 11:18
France

Thank you Flyamax…

IMHO this guy is being deliberately unhelpful and probably making the point that he has better things to do – because anybody who actually cares about doing their job can easily walk down the corridor and ask whoever wrote the code, or email them, etc. I get this in business all day long…

So, my guess is that they googled for the temperature lapse rate and found it is 2 degC per 1000ft and used that. Same as every other “cloud tops” site actually.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Got the answer :
He’s telling me that he has no additional information to share over the last time as the estimate is not scientific.

Seems to be more guessing though even if it may be with some more general meteorological knowledge.

France

Done. Waiting for the answer…

France

The problem is that you can’t get altitude from temperature unless you assume a certain temperature profile.

@Flyamax could you please ask this person specifically what profile they use?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I received an email from Infoclimat saying that the color scale is derived from an estimate of the image source. So there is nothing very specific.They strongly do not recommend using this in the preparation of any flights.

France

Peter wrote:

I wonder what the source data is?

It says it on the tin: MSG = Meteosat Second Generation (so Meteosat-8 through 10; 11 has been launched but AFAIK is not operational, it’s kept as a replacement).

I found another site here (sorry, still french):
“Infrared Images”: http://www.meteo-mc.fr/satellite-infrarouge-europe.php

This time the colors represent temperatures. I sent an email to the site to ask whether these are real temperatures or ISA related colorizations.
I’ll keep you informed.

Update: Their answer came immediatedly: it’s just a copy of the above Infoclimat.fr site. So I sent them the same mail with my question…

Last Edited by Flyamax at 22 Aug 09:20
France

Today, around CPT, UK, the cloud tops were about 5000ft at 12:00.

On 13th, they were about 7000ft on the flight EGKA-EIWT. That doesn’t look right. But there may have been high level cloud too – I can’t remember.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

You don’t have to go by the URL, you can use their interface to click through the images:
http://www.infoclimat.fr/cartes-meteo-temps-reel-images-satellites-infrarouge-visible-haute-resolution.html?i=ch

I have to go back about two hours at the moment to see anything useful though. Which is written below: “Ces données satellite peuvent être indisponibles la nuit.” – This satellite data may be unavailable at nighttime.

Last Edited by Rwy20 at 15 Aug 20:12
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