Here we have a fresh one ,during landing in Xanthi ZZZZ.Both instructor and student escaped with scratches !
https://www.newsbomb.gr/ellada/news/story/932875/synetrivi-aeroplano-stin-xanthi-dyo-traymaties-pics
Any idea what happened?
Well … they had a 675m 14/32 runway
and skidded off, or stalled short of, 116m from the north end of the runway near the soil deposit embankment.
Official (from AIP) declared distances.
Elevation 150ft. AMSL
In GoogleEarth you find it if you search for “Paleos Zigos, Greece”.
There is a nice 360 google image there right from the north threshold of the runway where you can get an idea of the surrounding.
I heard its a Thielert diesel engine Cessna (does not look like a 172).
Its unknown if it has anything to do with Greek occupants on-board.
Nearby Kavala LGKV METARs of yesterday noon.
LGKV 121220Z 14007KT 9999 FEW035 20/08 Q1027=
LGKV 121150Z 16007KT 9999 FEW035 19/08 Q1027=
LGKV 121120Z 16006KT 9999 FEW035 19/07 Q1027=
LGKV 121050Z 16007KT 9999 FEW035 19/07 Q1027=
LGKV 121020Z VRB06KT 9999 FEW035 19/07 Q1028=
Back to the original topic, when I flew in high DA in South Africa I got to train Canyon turns. There are very pretty mountains NE of Johannesburg that cannot be outclimbed in a PA28-140. Very tight radius (it’s a sharp edge on the SD trace), the FI lost at most 200ft, I was more 3-400ft.
If you’ve got 400’, why not lose it? Less G and a tighter turn.
Because said mountains have steep slopes and narrow canyons, so you can afford to lose some height but not rate 1 turns.
Of course if you wait until the last minute before realizing you won’t make the pass, you’re screwed either way.
