The assumption that one person can be easily subdued by three others is absolutely wrong, as I know from loads of experience in emergency medicine and intensive care. I’ve encountered patients under the influence of drugs or in a mentally ill state who took six or more people to restrain. The caveat of course being that we as medical personnel are not trained to restrain people the way police are, and when we have to do it we try everything to do it without hurting the person (although ideally, so will the police).
You’re also missing the point in this one. That one individual (non policeman) was able to stop this chap.
Whilst there are obviously cases where drugged up / ill people can go on a rampage and a great deal of force would be needed to stop them. I’m not sure that video is the case. Occam’s razor to me points to lack of competence.
Graham wrote:
Many years ago in England, one could be imprisoned for debt
And the pioneer of mass production techniques, the mechanical engineer Marc Isambard Brunel (the father of the more famous Isambard Kingdom Brunel) ended up in debtors prison more than once in his life.
Snoopy wrote:
Maybe they should get tasers?
They do have tasers.
Makes sense as well. They shouldn’t have let him slip once he was on the ground. Maybe he was under some substance influence?
As you might expect, this incident made a lot of media coverage in Sweden. I don’t remember all the details but I do believe he was under the influence.
The debate in Sweden roughly followed the lines here. There were those who thought the police did a good job de-escalating and those who wanted to the police to be more aggressive.
In any case, given the comment that this is Swedish police “in a nutshell”, I can probably make off_field happy by telling him that the number of people killed by Swedish police every year has risen dramatically during the last decade. What the video shows is rather the exception.
Interesting to see what’s been leaked showing the friends of labour, Socialist campaign in the states.
Seems like a cheap smear video about someone unimportant talking off the record. Social media really ruined politics.
Snoopy wrote:
Seems like a cheap smear video about someone unimportant talking off the record. Social media really ruined politics.
Indeed! The thing I detest the most about the “alt-right” party in Sweden (the so-called “Sweden Democrats”) is not their politics, but how they have systematically poisoned the public discourse on social media and on the web generally.
The corresponding position could be that since social media is “owned” by the “left” (largely due to the younger demographic), they are “poisoning” it in a similar way 
I think everybody is at it. Today, the skilled use of social media swings elections – because large tracts of the homo sapiens species get their entire world view from social media. Getting your aviation news from EuroGA is fine, because we (well some of us, anyway) are quite a balanced lot (chips on both shoulders) but if you do it with say facebook, you need a cut price deal on prozac.
On another topic, this is hilarious (and sooo British)
Actually, it’s against the Rulebook for him to be there without high visibility clothing (and has been for decades. I worked for British Rail in its final years). If a railwayman did that they would have been the swift recipient of a Form 1 (disciplinary notice).
Snoopy wrote:
Seems like a cheap smear video about someone unimportant talking off the record.
That’s a fascinating take on it. Given the guy is paid by sanders and has claimed that this view is widespread amongst the senior team (who have all locked up their internet presence I think). Saying Gulag’s weren’t a bad thing and calling for some pretty violent actions is fairly far out there for an election campaign. If a staffer for Trump had said similar the other way I’m sure it would have been happily picked up by the usual outlets.
