dublinpilot wrote:
A lot of people getting worked up over this
No. There are just differing opinions on the subject.
In terms of discussion this, as i said, is another topic. Crm has it well defined. Before starting a difficult approach there will be a brief, discussion perhaps about the weather, and the bail out options if things dont work out. Sops may well require both pilots to be in agreement.
Personally, whilst there is only one commander i think discussion still has its place in the ga cockpit. I have had enough situations which are non critical where its brilliant to have another pilot on board and who may have far more experience. Working the problem together can produce a much better solution. If you dont agree the most conservative solution is often the best. That, as i said before, is another whole discussion.
It’s interesting how people like to play games and different roles. But that doesn’t have anything with CRM. Handle transponder? Asking before touching? Read-backs of radio calls without procedure of executing and confirming tasks in cockpit? Sorry, don’t be offended but this is joke. You like to play big guys in simple aircraft. Ok, feel free to do it if it makes you happy and makes your flying more fun but don’t mix it up with CRM.
@dublinpilot you’re quite right. It was my fault. I started taking decisions and passing them over the radio before consulting PIC. It was a good lesson on what not to do. We were not prepared for the situation and both panicked a bit. We don’t want it to happen again, so we’re doing our own radio now and consult if we want, or not. It has to be clear who is in command.
Emir as a point of order i dont think anyone is playing big boys games, in fact quite the reverse. I have consistently said this isnt crm but task sharing, and i am bemused that possibly some contributors think it is, as slightly worryingly one is left wondering whether they are confused with what they are doing.
This is a really good video on “CRM” when flying with somebody else – in this case a non-pilot. It is 25 mins but is worth watching in its entirety
The amount of interference from the passenger in this video makes one cringe, but I had a flight with a CPL/IR pilot in the RHS who was even worse than that and could not stop talking.
Funnily enough the guy whose name appears at 13:15 did my initial JAA IR test 
He was excellent; probably the best examiner I have ever flown with.
Someone (non-pilot) told me one day to shut up while flying as I did not seem for him as able to do both at the same time, that was early days but this weakness seems to persisit…
I think even in the cruise, with the autopilot on, in perfect weather, and cleared on a long direct, just about everyone would tell that passenger to be quiet 
This video is a great example of CRM during a low IFR approach at night (in Texas). PIC giving work to the LHS person, himself a CFII. The CFII remaining in what the PIC asked him. You can see at the end it made the PIC sweat !
When I fly with another pilot and I am in the RHS, I offer to change Radio frequencies & Squawks.
I make sure that the other guy knows he is PIC, but will assist him if asked.
If I think the PIC has forgotten something or is doing something wrong then I dont hesitate to speak up.
If I am PIC and with another pilot in the RHS I would appreciate them doing exactly the same for me.
