You can also land at LILY but it’s preferable in this case to have a seaplane…
Thanks, actually, not. I would like to go to Lake Como for 3-4 days. I wanted to avoid the congested Milan Area, and the IFR route always wanted to take me via Austria from Italy due to traffic flow rules. Entering via DETSA needs FL150. Now I replanned, and as you mentioned, switching to VFR in the Milan area is a good solution. A few years ago (in the summer), I flew the route from Villach to the BZO area, and it was amazing. But in the summer, the WX is more favourable. This was wanted to be repeated and extended to Sondrio.
Hi Zsoszu, is there a specific reason why you are targeting Sondrio airport?
If you are planning to go to the southern part of lake Como, you could consider LIMB (Milano Bresso) as your destination, which is close to both Como and Lecco.
You can efficiently arrive IFR and cancel in the large Po valley, away from terrain, or if overcast you can fly the ILS at Linate (LIML) and proceed VFR to LIMB.
On the way back, LIMB will give you more chances to depart and not be stuck if weather is not good (unless you will be flexible with time): you can pick up IFR at 3000 feet from LIMB, while from Valtellina you probably need to climb to something like FL150 before picking up IFR, and if it’s overcast in the valley with mountain obscuration there’s no chance, and you can only try to go towards Milan VFR under the clouds, if reachable, and then pick up IFR there.
Not sure about your plans in terms of transport and services required, but Milano has also more facilities than Sondrio.
From a routing perspective to Sondrio, Tonale Pass is the way to Valtellina from Bolzano,
If that route is clogged by clouds you’ll have to get down to the Po valley through Garda Lake, and go back to Valtellina through Como Lake, a bit of a detour…
An alternative is to avoid Bolzano and fly through the valley from Innsbruck to Samedan and then continue through Maloja pass to Como Lake, and then into Valtellina.
Guys,
Thanks for this advice.
For info, on May 12, we will have a nice Airshow with 20-25000 visitors, at LHFM (Skyview Airshow) and in the autumn at Szeged (LHUD), the Szeged Intl Airshow. (14-15 of Sept) If you have time, come and visit. I will be there; I will help if needed.
Both are really cool, and the place around is nice to visit. City of Sopron is a lovely place in Hungary, as well as Szeged. For those who come to Szeged Airshow the city pays the landing and overnight parking(s).
Zsolt
amazing
This page has the info, the relevant regulations and the form to request permission (precisely: the exemption from the general ban on landing there). But it is all in Italian and anyway, permission is essentially only given to a small circle of local flying schools. Forget it. The runway (very rocky) is also probably still covered in snow right now.
This photo (not mine) conveys the beauty of the place:
Paso Tonale reaches 6178 ft.
sorry for the thread drift, but talking about the Paso Tonale, how does one obtain permission to land there? Last year I tried the formal channels, but no luck
THX
It’s a regular (civilian) aviosuperficie, not an aeroporto. I don’t think it was ever military use, at least in the last twenty years. Maybe a mixup?
So yes, PPR of course, but this is more the usual formality.
See also here
In general, aviosuperfici are now tightening up on PPR, or rather, prior notification, and often now insist on a form being filled in before flying. In the past, most aviosuperfici did not care much about these things (even though the obligation to log movements existed also before).
RV14 wrote:
Question: is it open for general public? Wasn’t it somehow reserved for the Italian air force?
Open with PPR according to https://www.aviovaltellina.it/aviosuperficie/come-arrivare/ and the comments on SkyDemon as recently as October suggest the same, but I, too, hope for some first/second-hand experience to come along into this thread :-)
