The power bank was being charged from the USB socket in the chair and sitting on an empty seat next to the owner. The crew dunked it in a water filled plastic bag and then put bag et al in a metal container. Luckily the power bank was smoking rather than flaming.
Peter_Mundy wrote:
whilst being charged
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Just watching on the French news a story about a power bank catching fire whilst being charged on board a Casablanca bound Air France flight. Luckily it ended well.
claiming FAA certification is bogus
No surprise… portable equipment, how could it be?
Historically, portable equipment would need some kind of approval if it was mandatory-carriage. So e.g. an O2 system needs approved parts if it is in an AFMS – basically in most turbo engined planes, and that also leads to the max 18k cannula altitude and a mask above that. But a plane without a fitted O2 system has no such limitations.
So a certified lithium bag would be relevant to where it is mandatory-carriage. Probably on an airliner?
This is an interesting read, claiming FAA certification is bogus..:
https://www.gleimaviation.com/2022/08/30/lithium-ion-battery-fires-and-containment-bags/
Where are the 1k priced ones?
OK, not quite 1k but maybe with shipping they would be
Where are the 1k priced ones?
These bags exist primarily for the electric model plane business. Those batteries have no protection and the charging tends to be primitive e.g. no cell temperature monitoring. And mechanical damage is quite likely to set them off, and they burn really well (plenty of videos out there).
If you crash a LIPO powered model plane, there is a fair chance of a nice fire but it will be too late to use the bag But there seems to be a greater awareness of LIPO fire risk there.
A fairly big current risk seems to be e-bikes. They seem to combine the best ingredients:
Fire services report a lot of calls to e-bike fires, and it is always too late to save the bike.
One also cannot avoid in-flight charging of a tablet, except on very short flights. This takes us back to here where is seems clear that unless you are running a 10 year old (and low-performance) Samsung tablet, you need a mount with built-in fans.
At that price, maybe worth testing one by setting an old phone on fire. May be educational.
I see these cheap ones along with some worth between 500 and 1.000 euros, so wonder whether the cheap ones are any good.
I got this from Amazon.
An iPad sized lithium fire bag…🤪