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G5 and KFC225

Does anyone know what this means

It is an option on the NON certified G5.

It may be a fake heading bug output, like the various “roll steering converters” have had. But I cannot believe it is a KI256 emulation.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Here’s the interface. The drawing is from the STC manual for the certified version.

Last Edited by wigglyamp at 12 Sep 07:40
Avionics geek.
Somewhere remote in Devon, UK.

That shows the ARINC429 roll steering, which AFAIK a KFC225 uses if it sees valid packets arriving (there is no config for enabling it).

Is a GAD29B inside the G5? That connection looks like a fake heading bug. The GAD29B then looks like a roll steering converter, taking in ARINC429 and outputting a fake heading bug.

Does this relate to anything actually displayed on the G5?

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

this is the second page and might also help.

The GAD29B ist the interface between the Garmin CAN bus that connects all/most Garmin devices and Arinc 429. It is a separate box.

Last Edited by chflyer at 12 Sep 08:00
LSZK, Switzerland

Peter wrote:

Is a GAD29B inside the G5? That connection looks like a fake heading bug. The GAD29B then looks like a roll steering converter, taking in ARINC429 and outputting a fake heading bug.

The GAD29B is a separate unit that converts GPS/NAV ARINC429 to CANBUS to provide display of GPS and VOR/ILS data on the G5. There are separate drawings showing the complete 429 interface including the VOR/ILS bus.
It also converts CANBUS back to analogue heading and course error for the autopilot (the G5 has no dedicated analogue interfaces). It can provide the pseudo GPS roll steering for those autopilots that don’t have the ARINC interface although not necessary with the KFC225.

Avionics geek.
Somewhere remote in Devon, UK.

Note 4 to the diagram from @Wigglyamp might also be relevant.

LSZK, Switzerland

So what does this actually do, given that a KFC225 can accept ARINC429 roll steering directly from a GPS box (GNS GTN IFR etc).

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

So what does this actually do, given that a KFC225 can accept ARINC429 roll steering directly from a GPS box (GNS GTN IFR etc).

It allows the autopilot to receive Heading and Course error if using a G5 as an EHSI. In your case with a Sandel SN3500 it wouldn’t offer you any benefit as an EHSI over what you have an in fact would be less useful as it can’t display DME or ADF.
If you has a G5 as an attitude indicator it also wouldn’t benefit you as it can’t replicate the autopilot attitude source or provide the FD bars. If you wanted to replace the KI256 in your TB, you’d need the GI275 (ADAHRS version) instead.

For an experimental RV (without the KFC225 of course), it’s the perfect solution as it will drive the Garmin autopilot.

Avionics geek.
Somewhere remote in Devon, UK.

Sure; I am not removing the 2 x SN3500. My query was re another aircraft.

The G5 in question is actually uncertified and going into an RV. Some other autopilot, but the KFC225 on the menu was curious!

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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