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Timothy wrote:

I have already done five days on the sim as part of my HS125 captaincy course, and I have 700 hours multi crew in G Reg, but I assume that that all counts for nothing?

Unfortunately I believe it is not relevant under the new system.

You also will need to go through security clearance and fingerprint/background checks – this takes around a couple of months.

My FAA PPL wasn’t a piggyback but issued in the USA, I believe this may give some advantage on the paperwork.

When I went to standalone commercial from 61.75 PPL i needed TSA approval but otherwise paperwork was same as if going from standalone PPL.

EGTK Oxford

You also will need to go through security clearance and fingerprint/background checks – this takes around a couple of months.

My FAA PPL wasn’t a piggyback but issued in the USA, I believe this may give some advantage on the paperwork.

Oxford (EGTK), United Kingdom

It looks like I might have to go to the States to get two type ratings, so 5 days multi crew jet sim time will probably be a good adjunct.

I have already done five days on the sim as part of my HS125 captaincy course, and I have 700 hours multi crew in G Reg, but I assume that that all counts for nothing?

EGKB Biggin Hill

RobertL18C wrote:

Alternatively your type rating provider might be able to provide the necessary multi crew jet SIM time as part of the type rating?

I have asked about this in the past and it is a 5 day course and not just some sim time.

EGTK Oxford

I suggest you contact Ben Gabriel at ATP Flight School – you can go from PPL to ATP, you don’t need to do the FAA CPL. The upset recovery training is also being phased in. Alternatively your type rating provider might be able to provide the necessary multi crew jet SIM time as part of the type rating?

Oxford (EGTK), United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

There may be some validation route… historically there have been such routes for ATPL holders.

That’s what I was hoping for. It seems a bit weird that someone who has held an ICAO ATPL for 30 years, and has a 61.75 PPL/IR should have to start from the beginning.

EGKB Biggin Hill

A previous thread is here.

It used to be just FAA PPL → FAA CPL → FAA ATP (which unlike the CPL includes the IR). A each point, one written exam and one checkride. The ATP also needed 1500hrs TT including 100hrs night.

Not any more; the ATP needs some sim time etc. Today you can’t even sit the ATP written.

There may be some validation route… historically there have been such routes for ATPL holders.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Timothy wrote:

Um…yes

Otherwise this would be rather a pointless thread

No it could still be interesting to others. Anyway it is not a trivial thing and there is not, to my knowlege, an easy conversion route that avoids the complexity.

EGTK Oxford

JasonC wrote:

Is there a particular reason you need an FAA ATP?

Um…yes

Otherwise this would be rather a pointless thread

EGKB Biggin Hill

It is a serious course with sim time.

https://atpflightschool.com/atp/ctp/

You will also need to consider how to go from 61.75 PPL to ATP standalone. It was somewhat complex. I am not sure you can do it from the IFP IR written. Better if you had US test passed ie you did the normal US instrument test.

Is there a particular reason you need an FAA ATP?

Last Edited by JasonC at 25 Aug 22:40
EGTK Oxford
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