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@Airborne_Again wrote:
you can fly IFR in class G below 5000’ without anyone knowing it
This confused me a bit. I thought ATC FPL is mandatory for IFR and VFR/Night outside of the vicinity of the airport.
So I checked the AIP ENR 10.1-1 and this is what it says:
A complete flight plan shall be submitted prior to operating any flight: […] Outside controlled airspace above 5 000 ft AMSL or 3 000 ft AGL whichever is higher, in accordance with VFR during darkness or IFR; […]
Does this mean that VFR/Night in uncontrolled airspace under 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL does not need an ATC FPL? Why did I think that is it mandatory for VFR/Night far away from the airport? Am I reading the wrong document?
Does this also mean that VFR (day) does not need an ATC FPL above 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL in class G?
Dimme wrote:
A complete flight plan shall be submitted prior to operating any flight: […] Outside controlled airspace above 5 000 ft AMSL or 3 000 ft AGL whichever is higher, in accordance with VFR during darkness or IFR; […]It does not!Does this mean that VFR/Night in uncontrolled airspace under 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL does not need an ATC FPL?
Why did I think that is it mandatory for VFR/Night far away from the airport? Am I reading the wrong document?
IFR in class G does not automatically require a flight plan according to SERA, but Sweden has chosen to use the provisions of SERA.4001(b)(3) to require a flight plan above 5000’.
Does this also mean that VFR (day) does not need an ATC FPL above 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL in class G?
Yes!
What is confusing is that before SERA there was no requirement in Sweden for night VFR flight plans in class G below 5000’. Now that there is thanks to SERA, the part about “VFR during darkness” that you quoted above could be dropped from AIP-Sweden. But having it there is strictly speaking not incorrect — only slightly confusing — so I guess it is not a priority to change the text.
So the Swedish AIP does not fully reflect SERA?
Dimme wrote:
So the Swedish AIP does not fully reflect SERA?If you take the list in ENR 1.10 1.1 as exhaustive then no, it does not fully reflect SERA.