Dimme wrote:
So the Swedish AIP does not fully reflect SERA?If you take the list in ENR 1.10 1.1 as exhaustive then no, it does not fully reflect SERA.
So the Swedish AIP does not fully reflect SERA?
Dimme wrote:
A complete flight plan shall be submitted prior to operating any flight: […] Outside controlled airspace above 5 000 ft AMSL or 3 000 ft AGL whichever is higher, in accordance with VFR during darkness or IFR; […]It does not!Does this mean that VFR/Night in uncontrolled airspace under 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL does not need an ATC FPL?
Why did I think that is it mandatory for VFR/Night far away from the airport? Am I reading the wrong document?
IFR in class G does not automatically require a flight plan according to SERA, but Sweden has chosen to use the provisions of SERA.4001(b)(3) to require a flight plan above 5000’.
Does this also mean that VFR (day) does not need an ATC FPL above 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL in class G?
Yes!
What is confusing is that before SERA there was no requirement in Sweden for night VFR flight plans in class G below 5000’. Now that there is thanks to SERA, the part about “VFR during darkness” that you quoted above could be dropped from AIP-Sweden. But having it there is strictly speaking not incorrect — only slightly confusing — so I guess it is not a priority to change the text.
From here
@Airborne_Again wrote:
you can fly IFR in class G below 5000’ without anyone knowing it
This confused me a bit. I thought ATC FPL is mandatory for IFR and VFR/Night outside of the vicinity of the airport.
So I checked the AIP ENR 10.1-1 and this is what it says:
A complete flight plan shall be submitted prior to operating any flight: […] Outside controlled airspace above 5 000 ft AMSL or 3 000 ft AGL whichever is higher, in accordance with VFR during darkness or IFR; […]
Does this mean that VFR/Night in uncontrolled airspace under 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL does not need an ATC FPL? Why did I think that is it mandatory for VFR/Night far away from the airport? Am I reading the wrong document?
Does this also mean that VFR (day) does not need an ATC FPL above 5000 AMSL/3000 AGL in class G?