Peter wrote:
Men have an infinite capacity for choosing women who dislike almost everything they want to do
Maybe has to be added that the most critical commodity these days are time.
Most people work full time and have preciously little time to do whatever they need to do at home, so any hobby which takes away more time will be under scrutiny. And flying unfortunately is one which takes tremendous amounts of time away from home. Particularly with kids, there is no time for such things and people end up in 24/7 threadmills which still leaves them with too few time to even go for a walk in the park.
Maybe that is why people disappear from flying between 30 and 60 and turn up again once kids are flown and they are either divorced or both have found their own things they can do without the other.
Peter wrote:
Men have an infinite capacity for choosing women who dislike almost everything they want to do
True. Obviously the picture may well be distorted as you don’t hear from those who did better. Or rather, the questions those guys ask and what they need are on technical subjects.
Jujupilote wrote:
I will stick to Planecheck anyway
LOL, yep, me too.
Apart, when I told the above quote in a friends round there was general laughter with the male population and “What is planecheck” from the female participants.
Mooney_Driver wrote:
One such wife told me once that she knew her husband was watching planecheck and other such sites and told me “if he was watching porn I’d be less bothered.”
I will stick to Planecheck anyway 
Peter wrote:
Not in a marriage, unless the marriage is well and truly on the rocks.
For sure, marriage is not an easy undertaking. Discernment, preparation and continous care can never be understated.
Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. Matthew 7:24
WilliamF wrote:
We offered the owner of a 310 the asking price and he didn’t want it. Offered the owner of another twin his asking price and he wants to hang on for a few weeks till he finds another aeroplane.
I can so well understand what is happening here – and it has nothing to do with my wife.
Emotional attachment with my airplane goes in cycles: At some days I think “Been to most of the burger shops I di want to fly to and now it’s time to not only get rid of the dead capital but also on the monthly bill for hangar, insurance, etc.” and some weeks later “This is the best airplane I could ever have wished for and I made so many great experiences in it – I could never sell my baby even if it is economically stupid to keep it”.
I have been close to listing it on some of the platforms but until now I always stepped back before doing so – but even if I do sometime I might end up as one of the “sellers” you are referring to and decline an offer for the asking price just because 2 weeks have passed between listing and offer …
Re wives and piston twins, some years ago a former boss had an Aztec and then a Cessna 320. His ‘mission’ was to fly once a month to visit his family in a somewhat remote town 130 nm from his base, with 2 POB. Almost never more and mostly VFR.
Why have a twin? Because his wife didn’t like to fly in his C182, only in a ‘safe’ twin… So wives’ influence can work both ways He liked having them, and spent a lot of time happily taking care of them. The C320 in particular was awesome.
He later died having started life literally digging by hand in a paid out silver mine with his father to survive, while taking apart abandoned washing machine motors for fun and education. He finished up as a world renowned electric engineer, and left his widow more than she could spend. Everybody won.
Men have an infinite capacity for choosing women who dislike almost everything they want to do
Probably related to their inability to find anything in the larder stored higher than chest height
Anyway, we did that before.
Snoopy wrote:
I’ve heard this for years and can’t believe it’s true. What a weird way to handle things in a marriage?!
I’ve seen it more than once, in both directions.
I’ve had dreamers who wanted to buy an airplane but did not even dare to tell their wife. Eventually they turned up at a meeting with their better half and tried to have me convince them it was a good idea. In more than one of such cases when the wife found out what her husband is up to it ended with a shouting match “You are not buying an airplane, are you???” by which time I usually would leave the ugly scene. One such wife told me once that she knew her husband was watching planecheck and other such sites and told me “if he was watching porn I’d be less bothered.”
And yea, I’ ve seen people who needed to sell their plane (and other stuff) as they were put on an ultimatum by the wife: The plane goes or I will and if so, I’ll take everything else you own. Face it: Divorce, particularly in the age where people own airplanes (50+), can mean financial ruin, loss of pension, home and income, particularly for men but also for women who aren’t doing their math right. I know more than one couple who would have divorced for ages but did not do it because they can’t afford neither the lawyer nor having their assets split but are at least wise enough to know that and arrange themselves somehow. I’ve seen others not only pretending to go to the gutter but ending up right in it, including giving up their jobs and going on welfare because it was not worth working anymore, as every penny over the welfare limit was taken away.
And there are cases in which the wife is actually right: What if the family has no money even to lead a normal life because of hubby’s expensive hobbies… in those cases I agree.
Yes, it is no way to conduct a marriage but there are sadly a lot of people who are in such or similar situations. Why do you think the “wife effect” with the Cirrus shute is such a big deal? Remember the old “Trident” cewing gum commercial, where as small kid in a race car is asked by a would be reporter why he liked this gum? his answer was, “it’s the only one my mum allows”. Well, Cirrus are the only planes some wifes allow “if you must”.
It’s nice if some folks have a better relationship but usually whenever more than one human are together, there will be one who is boss and the other who goes “yes dear”. And airplanes are about as popular as clubs, golf or extramarital affairs….
What a weird way to handle things in a marriage?!
Not in a marriage, unless the marriage is well and truly on the rocks.
But in a divorce, especially if children are involved, and note that the mother will prob99 retain possession of the children, and in practice there is nothing the father can do if she wants to break off his contact (and this is very common), it is tactically a highly recommended position for the man to look like he is heading for the gutter So, if you have an old car, keep driving it. Put your other hobbies up for sale. Don’t shave. These are simple things which cost you nothing. Been there, done all that
Of course there can be other reasons for putting something for sale at a silly price. If you have something unusual, somebody might bite. If you have a house in the country, with stables, and nice horse riding in the vicinity, and it is valued at say 1M, if you put it up for 2M, one day somebody will bite. Might take a year…
Mooney_Driver wrote:
I call them “aliby sellers”, people who don’t really want to sell but need the add to show their spouse “see, honey, it is for sale but nobody buys, so I am sorry we have to hang on to it.” Quite a few adds are suspiciously like that.
I’ve heard this for years and can’t believe it’s true. What a weird way to handle things in a marriage?!
I think it’s more like this: Some people contemplate about selling or keeping, so they list it and see of someone inquires. If so, the my go back and forth a bit, still contemplating. A bit like inverse tyre kickers.
OTOH there was an SR20 for sale, and I would have paid the asking price, but the seller found it too much hassle to even take a few snapshots of the current logbook or send the workreport from the last 100hr.
I think he wanted to sell to someone who wouldn’t care about logs, sb/ad status ;)
