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Stephan_Schwab wrote:

I can report that I never paid more than 140 something for landing

That matches my recollection of a landing at EDDK in September 2015. I could dig up the bill…

LFPT, LFPN

boscomantico wrote:

When turning outbound from BAM, which is an IAF for this approach, I noticed that the initial approach was coded incorrectly in the database of the KLN94

I`ve never had this problem before with my KLN94, somewhat scary even if easy to detect in this case. This means I cannot count on the database. One should report it to Honeywell and ask for a refund. For which reason a monthly update is necessary if such errors happen?

Berlin, Germany

Stephan_Schwab wrote:

Yes, I notice now. Anyway it’s the invoice I paid. I doubt it makes any difference but in the end the invoicing party should know.

EDDL has once overcharged me when they put the wrong type (in that case, a P28A type with higher MTOW) and I had my friends paying the invoice. They later refunded the overcharge to me. So that seems to happen sometimes there. ;-) They type in the type designator and it pulls the stored MTOW and the charges are based on that.

Hungriger Wolf (EDHF), Germany

Yes, I notice now. Anyway it’s the invoice I paid. I doubt it makes any difference but in the end the invoicing party should know.

I did look up an invoice from August 2016 for a short day trip to EDDK. It was 137,21 € including VAT with 1 PAX and no overnight parking.

Frequent travels around Europe

Stephan_Schwab wrote:

I used EDDL with my SR22 last month and paid 83,34 € including VAT.

However the aircraft designated on the receipt is a SR 20

EDLE

Very good pics; thanks for posting them.

Always good to see a KLN94 All these “non RNAV1” boxes were due to die years ago but that whole PRNAV ship seems to have left the harbour and sunk. I am sure they will launch another one pretty soon though…

That ground pic of the Alps looks like some bad wx just passed and cleared the air – very rare.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Thanks Stephan. It does come down to what they recognize in terms of “noise category”. What kind of noise certificate do you have? Note that yours is a TN, so despite 2700 RPM (like mine), it will be a little quiter than an NA.

Still, even yours will be relatively noisy. Nevertheless it looks like you were put into the cheapest noise category. Lucky you. It’s all a bit of a mystery in Germany and actually even seems to depend on the person processing your landing fee invoice…. it’s a joke.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

@boscomantico I used EDDL with my SR22 last month and paid 83,34 € including VAT.

It’s actually cheaper to use EDDL than Cologne EDDK.

[ I replaced the dropbox link with a screenshot, disidentified. Based on average traffic stats here, you would have got ~ 1000 downloads and DB tend to pull the account when that happens. Also most DB links become invalid pretty fast, for various reasons. Let me know if there is any issue with this, Stephan – Peter ]

Frequent travels around Europe

Top of Alpe D’Huez.

Patrick et al,

As usual, in Germany it always depends hugely on the accepted noise category, in addition to weight, time of day, pax and a few other details.

At Düsseldorf, an SR22 is indeed 200
Euros. But yes, the fees scale down quite noticeably for lower weights / better noise values. 1-ton aircraft, from various pireps, seem to be in 85€ ballpark usualy, so including the DFS fee, let’s call it a hundred Euros. Anything else will be between that.

Peter’s Bo, although the same weight as the SR22, is somewhat less noisy, AFAIK.

Re meeting up, should probably have called you and / or Roland up before leaving, but forgot, as it was planned at short notice. Next time. In fact, I even saw Georg’s plane parked at EDLE…

Last Edited by boscomantico at 08 Dec 09:24
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany
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