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New airfield in Croatia - Island of Vis

Answer is YES,
in case of 9A airports registered in accordance to national rules (up to 799 m)
That is local Air Law, take it or leave it…

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9A_LDSH wrote:

Answer is YES,
in case of 9A airports registered in accordance to national rules (up to 799 m)
That is local Air Law, take it or leave it…

You miss my point. I’m not talking about what HR law says. I’m talking about what is reasonable and also whether the whole countryside – outside of airports – should have these responsible persons. Survey drones can appear anywhere, not just at LDSH.

Please try not to read in more in people’s posts that what they actually write. I’ve seen it happen several times now.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

There is some personal stuff going on; already a number of deletions…

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

@Peter,
What is personal in strict following of local and EASA Air Law?
All for benefit of safe operations?!

@Airborne_Again
Some people are legalist some are not.
In this case the rule is on power and have serious impact on safety,
you or anyone else must think twice before looking how to skip over that rule.

The skip over in case of incident is criminal offense.
The Regulation is written, I am not the author or have any impact on that.

On the other hand one Regulation in 9A is mine, now with two amendments but still initial issue is mine,
moreover this year celebrating 10 years of activity in some EASA safety bodies.

In case you like to land on country side in 9A you must have approval by CCAA.hr,
in that case responsible person is well known. Afraid now you missing the point.

By Regulation the survey drones must be registered, listed in air space (CroControl AMC portal)
and in some cases covered by NOTAM, the drone pilot must be educated and licensed.
In the case of mentioned LDSH case, NIL on all points.

In case you need more explanation, you are more than welcome…

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It’s hard for me to imagine who would tolerate that hassle just to land at some dirt runway, or operate it. Sure, it’s on an island and that has its attraction but I don’t see that as enough to overcome the hassle for anybody involved and attract enough transient pilots to make it sustainable.

The airport log requirement is amusing, for any airport really but particularly so for a dirt strip in the middle of nowhere. Inspecting the runway daily too, it’s just too much to be reasonable.

Interesting WW2 history online though.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 08 Aug 15:08

I’ve been to Vis, June 2022. It is very nice but there will never IMHO be enough GA business on Vis to pay the salary of a person hanging around the runway during daylight hours. So any requirement for a “flugleiter” to actually be there (rather than be nominated, but actually sit in a bar) will kill it.

In comparison, Hvar LDSH, see other threads, has quite a lot of fashionable business (a bit less in the post Russian gangster era, but still quite ok) yet the runway there has struggled. And that was without a “flugleiter”; it was unmanned for all the time I’ve been flying to Croatia.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Unmanned is just an impression. To be there have several possibility including some of high tech one.
Will see…

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There you go! There’s a solution. A webcam, monitor in the bar. This is Yugoslavia, not Switzerland!

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Right => Yugoslavia socialist or royal or K und K monarchy (for much longer time), maybe the French Ilirian provinces (short) or Venetian colony or Croatian kingdom or Roman province or Greek colony or Ilirian kingdom…or stone age Adriatic culture.

Regarding the case of remote monitoring & control the prominent case is across the Adriatic in Apullia, 14 helipads + one Airport, all remote plus deputy presence on call.
Unfortunately the control room is not in the bar, it is in the basement of PAX helicopter terminal of Alidaunia Srl, Foggia base. All paid by EU 85% grant.

The Swiss rules about small airports or helipads are much more liberal FYI

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