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Warmest air ever and coldest air ever

loco wrote:

-73C or ISA -17 today

Saw this a couple of times at lower levels (and lesser radiations) whilst on the bus… problem was more fuel temp related.

Dan
ain't the Destination, but the Journey
LSZF, Switzerland

-73C or ISA -17 today.

LPFR, Poland

Highest I ever had was in Seville / LEZL some years ago. When filing my flight plan the met guy said ‘have a look’ and pointed to a screen showing the temperature right above the runway – it was 52C. OAT was something like 47C, of course measured by the usual device in it’s nice shady box.

Last Edited by 172driver at 10 Jul 18:24

I recall from AF447 that somebody said a jet cannot fly (at all) at FL350 in -20C SAT … Clearly they were wrong And -76C is getting close to the BA038 scenario, which I believe was -82C or so and was encountered by 0.1% of all flights.

It is interesting that you get these crazy temps high up too.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Hi,
I know it is a different ballgame (B747-8F), but in Novosibirsk two years ago, on the ground, I had -38 C with QNH 1053. At the cruising level FL330 I got -76 C and shortly after I got the FUEL TEMP warning, because it dropped below -45C

2-3 weeks ago, when it was told, that Syberia has extrem warm, I had -20 C on FL350 as SAT the TAT was around +5. I had to switch on ENG Anti. Ice which is very rare to get ICE at this altitude.

Zsolt Szüle
LHTL, Hungary

I agree with @ Peter, coming back from Corsica at the end of June last year itmwas +17 at FL 100

France

I am convinced the air at higher GA altitudes is getting warmer.

Maybe not at FL400 where things are much more uniform, because the temperature is more closely tracking the pressure. But at “GA IFR” levels I have never seen such warm air as I have seen in the last 5-10 years.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I have recorded 0 at FL180 and -32 at FL180 but definitely not same time of the year.

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

I should have said “aloft”

Also the two extremes were with a similar surface temperature.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

My personal record is -46C at 4000 feet in a 172 (central Quebec), and +44C landing a Twin Otter at Cairo.

Home runway, in central Ontario, Canada, Canada
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