According to aviation-safety.net, the same aircraft (I mean the same airframe, not just the same type!) had a similar accident in 2013 with an emergency landing after a loss of engine power.
172driver wrote:
To me it looks (from the windsock) as if he landed with a fairly strong tailwind.
Dumbell circuit after engine trouble… according to the link posted above. Could have been better managed, but they walked…
Yes, alioth, they changed quite a bit from the original long-legged straight-tail fastbacks to today’s short-legged flying easy chairs in a grow house… :-)
Noe wrote:
but I hear there are types that should not be sideslipped (I think some cessnas (172? With flaps down)).
Ahh! The old “Slips with flaps!” thing :-) I actually have the T-shirt (a picture of a C172 slipping with flaps, with “Slips with flaps!” in the vein of “Runs with scissors!”)
It’s not a prohibition, but the manual says (paraphrased) that slips with flaps should be avoided (not prohibited) and that an oscillation in pitch may occur if slips are used with full flaps. It only applies to some C172 models and not all of them (I don’t remember which ones off the top of my head, but the C172N was certainly one of them). The early straight tailed C172s for instance don’t have anything about slips with flaps in the manual.
EDIT I stand corrected at least for the 172B given the above :-)
172driver wrote:
It’s a problem (or can be one) on the 40deg flap models with full flaps deployed. No problem at all slipping a Cessna otherwise.
That is exactly my experience. There is the manual excerpt of our 1962 C172b (short-legged slant-tail fastback with manual 40° flaps)
07 LDA at EHSE is shown as 752m, even with a 8 knot tailwind they must have come in very fast? or the engine was developing more power than they realised. Agree with Beech Baby securing the engine (mags, fuel, ICO) to reduce risk of fire would have been helpful.
Ive heard about this mishap. This aircraft had the engine failing after takeoff.
Prop was windmilling.
Given the circumstances I think the outcome is not so bad. They climbed out the aircraft unharmed.
Should they have gone for a field into the wind? Maybe, but how much time do you have if the engine quits at 800ft?
172driver wrote:
It’s a problem (or can be one) on the 40deg flap models with full flaps deployed. No problem at all slipping a Cessna otherwise.
Still our 172s with only 30 degrees flap has a placard saying “avoid slip with flaps extended”
In my book avoid is not forbidden so a slip with deployed flaps have never given me any problems.
To me it looks (from the windsock) as if he landed with a fairly strong tailwind. Agree, it looks as if the engine was developing power.
