No Centurion installations with a fixed pitch prop.
So if you want to fly a Centurion-powered aircraft, you will also need differences training for constant-speed prop (even though there is no prop control).
Flyer59 wrote:
So, what you basically learn in that “single lever” checkout is to forget the mixture lever. I heard it can be done in six weeks, or in an accelerated 4 weeks course ;-)
It took me longer because I was searching high and low for the engine monitor showing EGT and CHT.
Edit: forgot
Boscomantico wrote:
So if you want to fly a Centurion-powered aircraft, you will also need differences training for constant-speed prop
Are you sure about that? Do you have a reference? In that case the concept of “variants” is even more absurd than I thought.
Do you have a reference for the opposite? It’s what it is: a variable pitch propeller.
Did I mention yet that these categories didn’t make too much sense?
boscomantico wrote:
Do you have a reference for the opposite? It’s what it is: a variable pitch propeller.
Nope. It never occurred to me the VP variant would be required.
Did I mention yet that these categories didn’t make too much sense?
I don’t know. I would need to re-read the long thread I believe we had here about variants a while ago I certainly think all these variant stuff is totally absurd and the discussion we are having now about VP for Centurions is a good illustration of that.
boscomantico wrote:
these “categories” are a bit daft
A bit? It’s completely insane. “Any person” can categorize, sort, place things in tables and see that “this one is different from that one”. It’s also easy for “any person” to come up with all kinds of reasons for why training and ratings are a good thing. By the looks of it “any person” has done so.
Stuff like this is OK for two categories of flying:
For private flying in a private aircraft, this is nonsense. Microlights have all the categories above except pressurized cabin, there is no ratings for any of them. If you don’t understand that doing some training to fly a sea plane is a good thing, then you shouldn’t be flying in the first place. If you fly a sea plane with no training, and do it with no accidents, then you are reckless, but a good pilot. If you do it and have an accident, then you are both reckless and a bad pilot. With all these ratings, how will we ever know and get rid of all the reckless and bad pilots?
Not reckless and a good pilot = OK (obviously)
Reckless and a bad pilot = not OK (obviously)
Not reckless and a bad pilot = OK enough
Reckless and a good pilot = OK enough
I don’t know if this makes any sense to people here, but all this babysitting for no real and practical reason cannot be good in the long run.
On the other hand, it takes nothing to get these endorsements and they’re valid forever. Any FI can issue them.
Apparently one needs a theory training first at this club before being allowed to fly the diesels…. Safety first. On the other hand the training coordinator was quite certain that I do not need a variable prop difference training BECAUSE of the single lever ops. So I guess he also thinks there is none needed for the single lever. Do difference trainings have to be recorded in the license?
I had a quick intro to the pre flight differences and was pleasantly surprised how few oil they burn on average.
Andi wrote:
Do difference trainings have to be recorded in the license?No. but in your log book.
Andi wrote:
was pleasantly surprised how few oil they burn on average.
Did they provide you with any numbers?
Bosco, I’m pretty sure the VP requirement is void for the Centurion installation through the SPLC requirement.
There is no prop control so nothing a pilot can do with it, hence there is no requirement to train on “square”, “over square”, “feathering” or any of that in the traditional sense, but it is covered in the SPLC training as it is part of that set-up.
If you train on a DA40 and want to fly an Arrow you will need to go through the rigors of the VP training (all 40 hrs of them) and on top of that there’s the complexity of a retractable gear (so another 40 hrs of flight training) – plus you probably have no experience from conventional instruments and avionics (another 40 hrs at least).
All in all, don’t learn to fly different aircraft, it’s far too complex.