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Cirrus BRS / chute discussion, and would you REALLY pull it?

all your posts regarding the Cirrus/CAPS are so biased

I was making a statistical point. Why not address that, Flyer59?

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

C210_Flyer wrote:

Well you forgot one of the most versatile and popular all encompassing single engine aircraft whose production run was for 28 yrs and grew to be a champion among aircraft used for travel. Mainly the C 210 in all its variants. One small flaw not chute.

Totally agree. What I’ve always wondered is why Cessna didn’t include the 210 in their lineup after they restarted production. Anyone know?

Aviathor wrote:

Sorry, C210_Flyer. I did consider including the C210 but decided against it because it is used for so many different missions, including missions that may be accident prone.

That’s definitely the case, these things are really great all-round work horses!

172driver wrote:

What I’ve always wondered is why Cessna didn’t include the 210 in their lineup after they restarted production. Anyone know?

What Ive been told is that the cost of production would be closer to 1 mil and there are so many older 210s for a fraction of the price that would make selling new a no starter.

The corp guys must know something.

KHTO, LHTL



The plane started having oil pressure issues immediately after take off.

Hmmm, I wonder if the engine actually quit ?

FAA A&P/IA
LFPN

http://m.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/nov/03/small-plane-crashes-near-fayetteville-high-school/

Sounds like oil pressure dropped and then went to near zero.

chock up 3 more lives saved.

ry by Brandon Riddle
Originally published November 3, 2015 at 10:36a.m., updated November 3, 2015 at 04:40p.m.
A small plane piloted by a former Wal-Mart executive parachuted onto Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard near Fayetteville High School on Tuesday morning, according to authorities.
The Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reported that three people were on the plane, which hit a truck when it parachuted to the ground, said Sgt. Craig Stout, a spokesman for the Fayetteville Police Department.
Four people were taken to Washington Regional Medical Center. Three of the people were in the plane, and one was in a vehicle that was involved, said Becky Stewart, chief of Central EMS in Fayetteville. She said none of the injuries were serious.
Stout identified those on the plane as Bill Simon, 56, the pilot; Cliff Slincard, 59, the co-pilot; and Maurice Willis, 47, a passenger.
Stout confirmed Tuesday afternoon that the pilot was the same Bill Simon who was president and CEO of Wal-Mart U.S. from 2010 to 2014.
Police had released Simon’s name earlier but said then that it was unclear if the pilot was the Wal-Mart executive or someone else with the same name.
Simon told The Associated Press that he unfurled an aircraft parachute that brought the plane down, adding that he suffered a burn as his air bag deployed.
He serves on the Baylor University Board of Regents and is an adjunct professor at the university’s Hankamer School of Business.
“We understand from news reports that [Simon] and his passengers have minor injuries, and we are thankful that everyone is OK,” Baylor University spokesman Lori Fogleman said in a statement, adding that university officials have not yet had the opportunity to speak with Simon since the parachute landing.
The driver of the truck was identified as Shakemia Harris, 30, of Fayetteville.
The plane was on its way from Bentonville to Waco, Texas, when it began losing oil pressure, Stout said. The pilot was on his way to attempt a landing at Drake Field in Fayetteville when the plane lost all oil pressure, Stout said.
The aircraft, a 2014 Cirrus SR22 fixed-wing single-engine plane, is registered to WG Aviation LLC of Rogers.
Records show a departure time scheduled for 9:35 a.m. Tuesday from Bentonville, with an estimated arrival time of 11:38 a.m.
Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard remained blocked in both directions from around Hill Avenue to Razorback Road just after 11 a.m., the Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reported. The aircraft was being removed from the scene as of about 4:35 p.m. Tuesday.
Fayetteville School District said on Facebook that the school was not affected by the crash, adding that “all students and staff members are safe.”
Information for this article was contributed by The Associated Press.

EGKB Biggin Hill London

Did the engine actually stop, and how far from the airport was the chute pulled?

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I am shocked – SHOCKED – that Flyer59 hasn’t posted this yet. Sleeping ??

Unfortunately no direct link, but go www.derspiegel.de and scroll down to ‘videos’. Compilation of various videos of a landing under parachute in Arkansas. Looks pretty amazing.

Yes I think that about 25% to 33% of Cirrus chute deployments return to service.

Most of the analysis done on Cirrus accidents indicates that many lives could have been saved from a chute pull vs trying to make a forced landing when in a high stress situation with unknown terrain. (You may think the terrain looks good at 1,000 ft but you realise that it is not (1.5 foot rock hedge row) only when at 400 feet and then it is too late for the chute…..and for you)

The G forces at work even at 65 knots (and that assumes you can do this in a high stress situation) are much greater than what will be encountered with the chute.

Yes your insurance may go up but much better to be alive.

EGKB Biggin Hill London
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