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Cannes LFMD

Approaches/arrivals look interesting. Any tips from those who have been in here IFR?

EGTK Oxford

Hi!

Cannes is nothing special flying wise, really! Make sure to register on their website, do the mandatory briefing and print out the certificate before you go. There is no test, but follow the instructions closely, there are noise monitoring points and you will get reported if you deviate from the prescribed tracks (happend to me a few years ago on an approach to Nice, but without consequences of any kind).

Arriving IFR, prepare for lengthy radar vectors at very low level (2000-3000ft!) over the sea - in our little Citation we plan for 300-400lb extra fuel. Sometimes they take you more than 30NM away resulting in 10 minutes delay or more. Weather permitting, it might be convenient to cancel IFR at some point and proceed visually. The departure is a step climb with an initial altitude of 2000ft and a speed limit, probably no problem in a piston single, but watch out. Lots of crossing traffic along the coast, mostly helicopters in and out of Monaco. Have a good lookout and climb as soon as they let you.

If you need parking, arrange for a parking slot early. During holiday seasons (easter holidays begin soon) you will only be allowed to drop your passengers with no pre-arranged and confirmed slot!

Happy landings max

NB: I have not forgotten your SOPs ... but I need a little more time to think about them

EDDS - Stuttgart

Thanks.

EGTK Oxford

What next,

while I am aware that on certain weekends there are PPR arrangements for parking in place (and then there will be a NOTAM, so in theory no problem), usually, there is no such thing as parking PPR at Cannes (at least not for sub 3 tonnes or so...)

BTW, does anyone know precisely whether the silly briefing is required for all flights, or only for IFR flights? My understanding is the latter, but someone implied something else...

Personally, I find the multitude of regulations, remarks and notes in the AIP for Cannes (do this, do that, don't do this, don't do that) a tad OTT for what is, after all, just a GA airfield (yes, I have been there several times, and yes, I know it can be busy sometimes, but still...). What they should is review the procedures occasionally and see if something can be eliminated or is redundant, instead of just keeping on adding "stuff"...

Frankfurt (EDFZ, EDFE), Germany

Went fine but I learnt that a Garmin 650 won't allow you to add waypoints manually (the two VRP points) after an approach. Went to go direct and got GPSS invalid msg. No issue as obviously I was visual and had map displays.

Going from there to rural Bavaria was quite a change. In so many ways...

EGTK Oxford

Hello
i have been today in Cannes as my original destination Le Castellet LFMQ could not do Passport check (needed min 24hrs notice)

Cannes was a very nice surprice mega friendly super fast cheap AVGAS 1,76 euro no need for any cards etc (cash, credit card ok)
they even reduced my Handling charges to 0 as they told me I was new and did not know the system they told me that if u use grass runway there is no Handling etc But i used main runway

nice place top friendly also all english is also OK
I was impressed

fly2000

Yes I liked Cannes. Very accessible. Pretty cheap.

EGTK Oxford

@ Peter_Paul
Passport Check – you did not come from a Schengen State? Is it because of this notam :

From 27 FEB 2016 0000 until 27 MAR 2016 2359

ACCORDING TO FRENCH DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR INSTRUCTIONS,
AND PURSUANT TO :
- ICAO ANNEX 9 STANDARD 3.33,
- ARTICLE 26 OF SCHENGEN CONVENTION (1985, JUNE 14TH)
- ARTICLE L.625.1 OF ‘CODE DE L’ENTREE ET DU SEJOUR DES
ETRANGERS ET DU DROIT D’ASILE’ CESEDA (FRENCH CODE ABOUT FOREIGNERS
ENTRY CONDITIONS AND RIGHT OF ASYLUM),
IT IS COMPULSORY FOR AIRLINE CARRIERS SERVING METROPOLITAN
FRANCE TO VERIFY EVERY PASSENGER TRAVEL DOCUMENT FOR EVERY INBOUND
FLIGHT TO METROPOLITAN FRANCE, COMING FROM INSIDE/OUTSIDE SCHENGEN
AREA DURING THE FLW PERIOD : 2016, FM 27TH FEB TO 27TH MARCH.
FAILURE TO COMPLY COULD LEAD TO PAY A MAXIMUM 5000 EUROS
FINE PER PASSENGER IN ADDITION TO PAYMENT OF THE COSTS OF REMOVAL OF
EACH INADMISSABLE TRAVELLER
?

Last Edited by nobbi at 07 Mar 23:01
EDxx, Germany

This is really weird, but not the first time some French airport and AT personnell gets confused and tells pilots tongo elsewhere. Why did you comply?

Re Cannes and Handling: there seems to be something going on there. I have had another report of someone going there (less than 3.5 tons) abd being quoted handling. Have they really changed this in 2016? The AIP still shows 3.5 tons as the threshold for mandatory handling and there is no NOTAM that says otherwise. This would really ruin this GA airport, by jacking up the fees from ~30€ to ~90.

It’s even more bizarre they said that handling would not be required if landing on the grass. How does that have any bearing on whether you need handling??

Frankfurt (EDFZ, EDFE), Germany

Although I have not been to Cannes for a couple of years I remember that the airport authority once told me I had to pay handling fees when I want to park on the main apron.
So I parked the aircraft parallel to runway 04/22 – those parking spots are on grass.

EDxx, Germany
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