Sebastian_H wrote:
Probably biased, but I fail to see why it was – especially with a nicely-equipped Cirrus – for them seemingly so difficult to get away from probably bad weather by climbing … when I f*cked up some time ago by questionable decisionmaking and ended in IMC with doubtful knowledge about the cloud base, ground situation, etc., it was a no-brainer to trust my AI and ASI, climb away from hard things that might hurt, and advise ATC about my emergency. Did cost me club privileges, of course, but better getting a bollocking on the ground than a headstone …
I met someone with well-equipped Cirrus who can’t load RNP+AP, why? “he does not have time to do IR TK exams at 60 years old”
I recall your post, I still think that is how any PPL should learn and practice how to handle it: you fly IMC above MSA or VMC on top later on you request ILS, LPV or SRA (or even cloud-break on VMC/GPS/IPad in safe area), if one has AP or GPS, they use it to enhance safety,
I am in minority, another minority prefer turn back and descending, the majority prefer to fly in the ground 
Probably biased, but I fail to see why it was – especially with a nicely-equipped Cirrus – for them seemingly so difficult to get away from probably bad weather by climbing…
SR20, 3 POB, full of fuel…
Emir wrote:
SR20, 3 POB, full of fuel…
You’re right in pointing that out to me; I had a quick look at a POH copy I could find (http://www.aeroccidente.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/POH-Cirrus-SR20.pdf), and the enroute climb tables on pages 5-19 and 5-20 give at full weight and ISA at 4000ft at least 350 ft per nm resp. 600 fpm – OK, that’s not great, I kinda had hoped for better performance as I was unconsciously biased by having my lightweight little steed in mind.
An SR20 can be described as “underpowered” but that is not a reason to crash into terrain.
Almost certainly they were flying in IMC.
Peter wrote:
An SR20 can be described as “underpowered” but that is not a reason to crash into terrain.
The only thing you have to do is to start climb on time.
Almost certainly they were flying in IMC.
Eye witnesses saw the aircraft just before the accident in VMC but very low (claiming less than 200 ft but it’s not easy to estimate altitude), close to rising terrain which was obscured by low clouds, according to same eye witnesses “fog and rain”. So I would conclude that after last seen in VMC they entered IMC and collided with terrain.
Don’t really need any special training for that then.
