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Desired SPO2 levels with oxygen systems

Since practically all my touring is above 10k, I almost always use oxygen. O2 level can vary but it’s always above 90% depending on breathing pattern, usually around 95%. Coping with lower level is very individual and my wife does significantly better than I do.

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

Absolutely. If I am doing an IFR (high altitude; not Shoreham to LFAT at 5000ft ) flight, accepting oxygen is mandatory.

Not having oxygen halves the operating ceiling and pretty well buggers up wx avoidance options.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

That video seems like bad practice to me. They were at 12K feet, with an O2 system onboard, but but it wasn’t set up and ready to be used.

So for some periods there was noone monitoring the flight, while the pilot tried to manage a hypox passenger while trying to setup the system.

I also wonder what would happen if they both had reacted the same way. It would have been much better to have the system set up and ready to use if it became necessary.

EIWT Weston, Ireland

This is a topic where it is easier to describe the solution than to define the problem. This may be in part due to the solution being amenable to an engineering approach, but the problem being a complex physiological/molecular biology interaction not readily amenable to a mechanistic engineering approach. There may be AI/machine learning approaches with potential to describe/predict, but not explain (yet) some of these phenomena.

EGCJ, United Kingdom

Oxygen generators.

A very interesting solution.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I’ve got an oxygen concentrator, Innogen One G5, and it seems to be a good device. I use it any time I plan to go outside the flatlands. My initial testing at about 14.5 took me from about 85% to 99%. After a few seconds, you don’t even notice it. Battery for about 3-6 hours, and I plug it into the aircraft 12v for “unlimited” O2. New it’s about 2.5k USD, I found a “used” one for 1.5k Euro in France on leboncoin.fr. It was new, but the box had been opened. Happy to provide more details if anyone is interested.

Last Edited by eurogaguest1980 at 11 Nov 09:31
Fly more.
LSGY, Switzerland

I like to be 95% or higher and normally this is readily achieved with the MH O2D2, at any altitude up to FL210, although at the upper end one needs to breathe very deliberately.

This is an account of mine from way back.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I have regularly flown at FL100 without oxygen before getting an oximeter. When I did, I noted to some surprise that I got values below 90%. Of course, I know that you don’t realise when you’re (slightly) hypoxic, but in retrospect, I can’t see that I made any bad decisions on such flights. (At least not worse than when I fly at low levels. )

On the other hand, when I once flew as pax at FL130 for several hours I did note a marked tiredness and lack of concentration that disappeared when I used oxygen.

Last Edited by Airborne_Again at 11 Nov 08:03
ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Snoopy wrote:

Younger people show worse effects than older ones.

There might be also a significant “training effect” involved in that: A surprisingly high percentage of elderly people (esp. male) suffer from some form of sleep apnea (often undiagnosed) that leads to alarmingly low levels of SpO2 during some phases of the night. If your body is used to 2-3hrs. of 70% SpO2 every night, it is much easier to cope with 70% SpO2 due to low pressure environment in high altitudes…

Germany
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