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Renting out and learning in an N reg aircraft in the UK

I felt bad enough about abusing it when transitioning to my plane, can’t imagine using it to get the PPL. The IR, on the other hand…

tmo
EPKP - Kraków, Poland

If your type is not a C172 or PA28, finding an instructor/examiner for a quick check flight is already tough, he has to be a poh reader and brave type, maybe one from vintage/gliding scene as they are used to single seat flying? also the school needs to send the aircraft checklist to be approved by the CAA for a start, that takes 2 months and costs money

Last Edited by Ibra at 09 Jan 22:26
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Doing an ab initio PPL in your own G-reg won’t be a lot easier – it depends on finding a school willing to play ball. You should be able to find one, somewhere.

But not in a retractable etc. It is possible legally but if you can find one to take this on I will eat my oil filter

I’d love to see that, Peter

When I was instructing, a student bought a PA28RT-201 Arrow IV [probably the worst handling of the arrows, BTW] just after first solo. We got his aircraft on the schools books and he finished his PPL including the skills test in the aircraft.

@jdaisey; I no longer instruct, but if you are interested in seeing Peter eat that filter, I can let you know the school – send me a PM. Not sure they would have done it on an N-reg.

Biggin Hill

Hmmm, Cobalt, I need to be sure this game is fairly played. Are you 100% certain that Arrow was genuinely retractable ?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

It was either that, or it had an upgraded engine to cruise at 135kt… which was the fun bit. No point babying the student (or the engine), we cruised at 75%, and I had to rework all the nav routes because the ones we used in the school were designed for 80-100kt cruise and too short to be meaningful exercises. He – gasp – even had to learn how to lean!

Biggin Hill

Leaern how to lean bellow 2500ft that is a luxury skill

Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

Looks like you can get an FAA Student Pilot Certificate issued in the UK! Found an FAA instructor who does it so one can fly solo on Ab-initio EASA PPL on N reg. Thought it may be interesting for others to know

United Kingdom

A US student pilot certificate is ordinarily not valid for exercising pilot-in-command privileges in international flight. 14 CFR 61.89(a)(5) refers.

London, United Kingdom

Thanks! Looks like I may have been inadvertently misinformed

United Kingdom

Qalupalik wrote:

A US student pilot certificate is ordinarily not valid for exercising pilot-in-command privileges in international flight. 14 CFR 61.89(a)(5) refers.

I thought about this some more and spoke to an intructor. I also read the above regulation. It seems to me (and the instructor) that ‘international flight’ applies to crossing international borders, rather than a flight done within a country. i.e. if the solo is done on an N reg in the UK (without crossing into France/etc), then it would not be deemed an international flight?

United Kingdom
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