You also get a couple of emergencies, not just the standard engine failure and glide approach.
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I thought an EASA CPL skills test is just a VFR flight, and the entire training is a dual flying VFR nav exercise. The EASA IR includes unusual attitude recovery (at least mine did in 2012).
RobertL18C wrote:
while I enjoy the elegance of the concepts and the use of gates
I don’t think gates are taught outside the UK. I’ve taken IR training twice and never heard of it until I read the PPL/IR Europe instrument training manual.
A (practice) diversion because of physiological needs is all it takes to get student´s brains going.
That’s a good idea!
Or IR or ATP or CFI or CFII.
Malibuflyer wrote:
In EASA-Land there is no such thing as a PPL or CPL check ride. Licenses are valid indefinitely.You do check rides for ratings so SEP/MEP/… and Typeratings as well as IR. Typically one does the IR-checkride together with the SEP/MEP/TR one – but they don’t differentiate if the underlying license is a PPL, CPL or ATPL
Check ride is the FAA term for an initial test flight before you get your CPL or PPL.
In EASA-Land there is no such thing as a PPL or CPL check ride. Licenses are valid indefinitely.
You do check rides for ratings so SEP/MEP/… and Typeratings as well as IR. Typically one does the IR-checkride together with the SEP/MEP/TR one – but they don’t differentiate if the underlying license is a PPL, CPL or ATPL
@JasonC I do wonder at the devotion to the NDB hold in particular – while I enjoy the elegance of the concepts and the use of gates, I have never flown an NDB hold in anger. GPS waypoint holds, VOR like Lambourne, sure, but never an NDB. As the procedural approach starts from a hold, and most training airfields have an NDB locator, I guess it is a train for test feature. Ideally more time on scenario based training might be useful.
It´s not only on the CPL checkrides. During my PPL checkride in FL, 2016 , I had a “rough running engine” followed by a “fire in the engine compartment”. I try to do this to my students from time to time, and it does not even have to be dramatic. A (practice) diversion because of physiological needs is all it takes to get student´s brains going.
But I´m not sure if the Atlas accident would have been prevented with different checkride scenarios. The FO had not come fresh from a flight school but had quite a bit of experience in previous jobs.
