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The relevance of VACs - Visual Approach Charts - for VFR?

Peter wrote:

Sweden doesn’t if there is no IAP (checked with ESGP, ESGJ, ESSA, ESMS) but I am not sure this is a complete picture.

It is basically correct, but there are exceptions — currently ESGP, previously ESCM. My guess is that airports with ATS (ATC or AFIS) have VACs published. Currently all airports with IAPs in Sweden have ATS, so they will all have VACs. ESGP is the sole VFR-only airport with ATS. (This was the case previously for ESCM.)

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Take a look now at the EuroGA airports site, do a Database search for some airport, and try the AIP button.

Makes it much quicker to dig around EAD than digging around EAD

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Bastia LFKB seems to be one of the exceptions where the VAC is in two parts, with the 2nd one being for helicopters

https://airports.euroga.org/aip.php?ad=LFKB

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Denmark does nice ones

BTW the issue with downloading these via the EuroGA airport database and getting the EAD login page popping up, is here. You don’t need an EAD login; you just need to refresh the page to get the proper PDF. And due to the way the source site (EAD) has been designed, it doesn’t work with anonymising / antitracking browser modes.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

FWIW, Poland publishes both IFR https://www.ais.pansa.pl/aip/ and VFR https://www.ais.pansa.pl/vfr/ AIPs.
With pictures and, where appropriate, Visual Operation Charts and extracts from the Aeronautical Chart of Poland

tmo
EPKP - Kraków, Poland

What would be interesting is whether there are airport AIP PDFs on national sites which are not on EAD, and which the pilots here feel should be available via the airport database.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Croatian VFR manual is available for free here and VAC charts are very nice.

AIP is available from this page (current and next release) but the actual directory changes the name with date of release.

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

OK; I see VFR-only airports in Croatia are not going to EAD.

Perhaps a simple way to deal with this would be by going to EAD and if nothing is found then go to
https://www.crocontrol.hr/UserDocsImages/AIS%20produkti/VFR_prirucnik/index.html

That may be a model for other countries but I wonder which ones? I keep asking this Q and there is no input So I reckon most pilots get AIPs from their national website and have never heard of EAD

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

If you are willing to have it programmed, one could extract from
https://www.crocontrol.hr/UserDocsImages/AIS%20produkti/VFR_prirucnik/menu.html
the list of PDFs per airports and then give direct links to the PDFs, as you do for EAD.
Something like that with regular expressions, for example for LDRP:

grep LDRP menu.html | egrep ‘href=“[^”]LDRP[^"]"’|sed -e ‘s/.href=“\([^”]LDRP[^“]*\)”.*/\1/’|uniq

Then the URLs are the results of that
PDF/LDRP.pdf
PDF/Charts/LD_AD_2_LDRP_2-ADC_en.pdf
PDF/Charts/LD_AD_2_LDRP_2-VAC_en.pdf
with https://www.crocontrol.hr/UserDocsImages/AIS%20produkti/VFR_prirucnik/ prepended.

With a bit more work, you’d extract also the labels of the PDFs, in this case
LDRP – Data
LDRP – Aerodrome Chart
LDRP – Visual Approach Chart

ELLX

That would be using Crocontrol for all airports, which is a reasonable approach.

I can’t see an objective reason for getting IFR ones from EAD and others from Crocontrol.

It is what I was hoping to avoid originally, of course.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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