Yes; this guy is very good and well known over here.
Good news for both immunity lasting a long time, and for at least some vaccines working.
EDIT: in the meantime there is no lower bound to human stupidity.
Peter wrote:
in the meantime there is no lower bound to human stupidity.
Unfortunately this kind of thing will continue to happen while the government continues to stop the population from doing the things that they naturally want to do – remember humans are social animals… Its no different to the shutting of bars at 10pm (or 9pm or whenever) where people will just continue to socialise in the street or at home. Additionally to all this is that those that would normally socialise most (18-30s) are those that know they are largely not at risk. Ive written on here elsewhere, but my 18yr old son has been truely shafted this year – I can fully understand why this happens, and the fact that its illegal now adds to te “fun” or “rebel” aspect of doing it.
Back in the day I went to illegal raves myself just for the experience – I never like rave music!!
Regards, SD..
Yes of course one can understand the incentive…
Another unfortunate side effect of this is that the regulations have to be expanded to include things like “you aren’t allowed to meet non-family people even outdoors in your garden”. Everybody knows that is probably pretty safe, but such a reg enables the police to disperse a party of 100 in somebody’s garden, without them being forced to make a judgement call on the safety of the gathering. The govt is unable to spell this out because to do so would be non-PC (anti youth, etc) and would feed the flames even more. So we are getting measures which seem silly…
matthew_gbr wrote:
Regarding home schooling. A couple of observations from here in the UK.
May observations/experience with homeschooling:
- About half of the kids learn by themselves for some time and therefore don’t have any issues. The other half does nothing
- Same with teachers: About half take on the challenge and create great online offering, other half is barely sending to do lists beginning of the week
- Basically it’s the same with teachers and students: The better ones get even better, the bad ones get even worse
- Homeschooling (at least in Germany) is completely different from home office: It starts with very fundamental data privacy questions. Typically German teachers must not have the mobile numbers of their students (and vice versa); there is a major public debate, if MS Teams (or any other collaboration platform) fulfills data privacy requirements for schools, etc.
- We missed the opportunity to prepare for a second wave this summer – basically nothing happened and people (not only politicians but also teachers, parents, etc.) showed a “if we ignore it it won’t happen” attitude.
- And most generally: School is much more than teaching how to read, write and calculate. The Arts, social skills, sport, etc. is come significantly short even in the best of all possible homeschooling efforts.
skydriller wrote:
Additionally to all this is that those that would normally socialise most (18-30s) are those that know they are largely not at risk
They live in the illusion they are not! Recent reports on long term effects that not only hit people that were on ventilation show, that also younger people might suffer significantly.
Golf and tennis getting a reprieve it would seem likely, as well as swimming.
I am inclinded to feel that closing non essential retail, getting the majority working at home, preventing gatherings of more than two and closing pubs and resteraunts are the key elements which I suppose is essentially what we have.
Preventing people visiting holiday homes, boats, playing outdoor non team sports etc would seem to have a very minimal impact and should be excluded.
I am disappointed after all this time some of the detail appears still not to have been thought through.
What makes me most sad about this is that most of the “kids” doing these raves are living with their parents.
As a parent of two boys I know very well that parenting is far from being the bundle of undiluted joy which most would-be parents think it will be, but if my two were living with me and doing this, I would be looking at some difficult choices.
Parents all over the country – all over the world – must be tearing their hair out.
There is also this
The problem is that if you get this wrong, you have a disaster on your hands, the govt will be blamed, while the scientists will remain on their academic salaries.
Peter wrote:
What makes me most sad about this is that most of the “kids” doing these raves are living with their parents.As a parent of two boys I know very well that parenting is far from being the bundle of undiluted joy which most would-be parents think it will be, but if my two were living with me and doing this, I would be looking at some difficult choices.
Parents all over the country – all over the world – must be tearing their hair out.
I agree.
Sadly, I suspect too many give up parenting at various points from shortly after birth.
A part of me feels that IF you do not live at home and have no contact with more vulnerable people then there is an argument that your life should not be unduly disrupted. Unfortuantely the reality is this is impossible. The closest might be a student that has moved entirely away from home, but even then said student will inevitably still interact with the wider population if permitted to do so.
Children at home have a contract with their parents to toe the line regardless.
The 2nd “lockdown light” has begun in Germany today. It was not very noticeable to me. Traffic on the streets looked normal while I was cycling to work. Our hospital is buzzing with activity, very unlike the way it was in April. The number of Covid-19 patients is on the increase, but not dramatically (yet). They still make up only about 1% of all patients in in this hospital.
A big difference is that, so far, there has been no guidance to postpone elective surgery, at least not officially. Behind the scenes, the surgical departments are probably already planning for this, but right now they’d simply lose money if they don’t operate on elective patients. The problem is that some of their patients, especially in heart-, neuro- or abdominal surgery, require post operative ICU treatment for days. So if there is a sudden influx of Covid-19 patients needing ICU treatment, we will reach capacity quickly.
Peter wrote:
Some things are better than last time, and hopefully flying will not be banned so may be possible discreetly (it was never actually banned last time; only the journey to the airport was questionable). It was fairly obvious that the people on the ground would not be happy seeing planes flying, so to minimise hassle for the airport I used to fly only on cloudy days.
I have just spoken to one of the larger GA airports and they told me that they expect to remain open with normal operating hours and have received guidance that domestic travel and flights would not be subject to any restrictions. However, for international travel (inbound and outbound) one would need to prove a business purpose/reason.
