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172driver wrote:

YMMV.

That!

For me it was OK to use GTN 750 for instrument training in turbulance.
I agree if there was a way to have an external normal keyboard (Bluetooth or the likes on G1000), it would have been even better!

EGTR

172driver wrote:

With all due respect, that sounds like the dumbest decision your club has ever made. Unless, of course, your members only fly local VFR sorties.

Most people here use SkyDemon and not Garmin Pilot. Our members don’t only fly local VFR but that’s probably the majority of flights given that we also operate a flight school.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Your’re kidding, right? Have you ever tried to fly an airplane in IMC with reference to an iPad that is either on your joke and therefore turns with movement of the joke or on your knee and therefore 90deg till in comparison to your flight attitude? Try it with a hood in VMC with a pilot next to you how can recover the plane and you will never think again, that an iPad (even with an aviation grade ADHRS connected) comes only close to a backup PFD…

Here’s an iPad working well as an MFD using a panel mount. This is running Garmin Pilot and connected to the GNS 430W via FS210. The SynVis widget in GP provides PFD functionality.

Last Edited by NeilC at 22 Dec 20:25
NeilC
EGPT, LMML

An ipad on the very far right of the panel? Maybe for someone sitting in the righthand seat.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

Works well for us My dear wife’s only complaint is that she has nothing to do, now that the knob-twiddling has been replaced by auto flight plan upload…

NeilC
EGPT, LMML

boscomantico wrote:

An ipad on the very far right of the panel? Maybe for someone sitting in the righthand seat.

Big advantage compared to the G500 I have on the right hand side: iPad plays Netflix on long legs ….

Germany

I positively hate touchscreen interfaces in these units – try to do anything in turbulence. IMHO they are simply not fit for purpose in light GA aircraft.

In reality most actions on the GTN need only one screen touch – if that.

For instance, to load and activate Tower frequency on a busy/bumpy arrival, all we need to do is thumb a yoke button and say “tune destination tower”. The GTN knows where we’re going and what the tower frequency is, so it loads it into standby. One screen or knob touch toggles it to active.

At the other extreme, if we see something interesting on a sight-seeing jaunt, just say “create waypoint here” – and it does.

Passengers asking “are we nearly there yet?” – we ask the GTN to “say ETE to destination” and our pax can holler if they need a rest stop sooner.

A previous knob-twiddler owner fitted a PoS 2.5” diameter Funke radio in my Jodel. It’s about to go in the trash (or eBay) , where such dumb avionics belong.

Glenswinton, SW Scotland, United Kingdom

Jacko wrote:

For instance, to load and activate Tower frequency on a busy/bumpy arrival, all we need to do is thumb a yoke button and say “tune destination tower”. The GTN knows where we’re going and what the tower frequency is, so it loads it into standby. One screen or knob touch toggles it to active.

Even without the voice command feature (which requires a particular Garmin audio panel) you can do the most important things, like COM tuning and direct-tos without using the touch screen. I have found only very minor problems with the GTN units even in moderate turbulence.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

The GTN knows where we’re going and what the tower frequency is

Does that come with the normal GPS database, or is it a separate subscription?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Does that come with the normal GPS database, or is it a separate subscription?

It’s in the usual navigation database.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden
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