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PilotAware - audio into King KMA 24

Peter wrote:

A 1k to 8 ohm transformer is a step down one, which will hugely reduce the signal, by about 11:1.

If it was wired backwards i.e. the 8 ohm side on the left in the above diagram, that would be roughly 1:11 gain (turns ratio is the square root of the impedance ratio i.e. sqrt(1000/8)) which should work.

Yes that’s how mine is wired, stepping UP. (and it works perfectly.)

Ah….Thanks, I’ll give it a try, just need mono so one transformer.
Had hoped something like that would work!
Funnily enough I bought a audio signal transformer on eBay last light, 500 ohm:16 ohm, both centre tapped so according to Peter’s formula(which I had long forgotten) using the centre tap on 16 I should get 8:1 and a few other possibilities. :-)

Last Edited by PeteD at 16 Oct 08:00
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A 1k to 8 ohm transformer is a step down one, which will hugely reduce the signal, by about 11:1.

If it was wired backwards i.e. the 8 ohm side on the left in the above diagram, that would be roughly 1:11 gain (turns ratio is the square root of the impedance ratio i.e. sqrt(1000/8)) which should work.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I had the same matching problem between a GMA 430 audio panel (which has an input impedance of 460 ohms)

I made an impedance matcher as documented by COPA and it works perfectly. I think it would achieve satisfactory results with a PilotAware and the KMA 24.

Here are the instructions / illustrations (although I put mine in a proper little case, rather than a pill-box!):



Last Edited by Pilot-H at 16 Oct 00:44

Very old..EL84’s….Ahh!

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You are either very trendy and into audio, or very old

(I used to build with valves too, in the 1960s… EF80, ECC83, EL84… apparently some of these are back in fashion, gold plated and made in Russia of course)

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I can solder but the last amp I built involved valves:-)

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Only if it has a higher output – a lot more than the standard “line level” which this one does.

It would actually be very easy to birdsnest a little circuit which boosts the signal to several volts. I would use a MAX232A to generate +8V and -8V from the +5V rail, and then some common op-amp to amplify the signal. But this is easy only if you can solder competently.

I am sure others have been up this path before…

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Could it be a solution to install a usb sound card?

pmh
ekbr ekbi, Denmark

I suggest you find a 1:5 (or similar) transformer, with a primary inductance of 30mH or more (I worked that out to make a Z of 50 ohms at 300Hz; the lowest relevant audio signal).

Ebay # 123241045604 is about 1:10 and should work.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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