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Night Rating during the summer months

lionel wrote:

Do I understand correctly that you need a FAA instructor, an EASA one will not do?

EASA actually. The Luxembourg FI/FE sounds like the perfect solution. I’ll pm you.
Thanks a lot to everyone.

Last Edited by xavierde at 20 Jun 17:21
KHPN, LFBE, EGKB, United States

I know a Luxembourg FI/FE that is into VFR night; he even wrote/published books about it. He will literally fly all night if the student(s) can take it. He’s organising a training this summer centred around LFJY, LFJL, LFSN with a local club/ATO. No club entry fee, no membership fee, just pay the rent of the plane and the instructor. He might be open to a more custom arrangement, too, I’m not sure.

PM me for contact details.

ELLX

Here is the FAA regulation:

Sec. 61.41 Flight training received from flight instructors not certificated by the FAA

(a) A person may credit flight training toward the requirements of a pilot certificate or rating issued under this part, if that person received the training from:
(1) A flight instructor of an Armed Force in a program for training military pilots of either—
(i) The United States; or
(ii) A foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.
(2) A flight instructor who is authorized to give such training by the licensing authority of a foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation, and the flight training is given outside the United States.
(b) A flight instructor described in paragraph (a) of this section is only authorized to give endorsements to show training given.
KUZA, United States

I did my night hours for the FAA PPL with an EASA instructor in Germany. We did a 2,5hrs cross country flight and then another 1,something for the required 10 full-stop landings. The examiner accepted it, no issue at all.
In fact all but five or so of my required hours had been done over time in Europe. I just needed some more instrument time and the three hours before the checkride to get my endorsement.
When I recently converted my FAA PPL to an EASA-FCL PPL (instead of moving up from LAPL to EASA-FCL) they also accepted my FAA PIC night hours and issued me a night rating as well.

EDFE, EDFZ, KMYF, Germany

Any ICAO authorised instructor should be acceptable to the FAA. Large numbers of European pilots got their FAA papers based on their European training.

There are some strongly dissenting views, mainly to do with the meaning of the FAA term authorised instructor. @ncyankee might know more.

Also bear in mind that the FAA night rating requires a specific night cross country flight, which the EASA one doesn’t need (or didn’t when I was doing it, in JAA days). A lot of European pilots, who had the NQ, had to do extra night hours to get their FAA PPLs, as a result.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Do I understand correctly that you need a FAA instructor, an EASA one will not do?

ELLX

It’s a 5 hour course, with mandatory dual and solo elements. To be honest you’ve got no chance in the UK until August at least unless you want to pay particularly high rates.

Now retired from forums best wishes

Actually, my worry is more about finding an instructor willing to fly that late :D

KHPN, LFBE, EGKB, United States

Southend, Cardiff, Oxford, Biggin. Then there are many farm strips with runway lights. It all depends on how much night time you need. In most cases one needs just a couple of flights. I have 2400hrs TT but only about 30 at night

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

To the best of my knowledge, and there are lots of threads about this in another place, the only UK place to fly very late without airline / corporate levels of money changing hands for landing and handling is Oxford which runs until 2230 local. Even there, this week that gives you barely half an hour.

Still, it’s the solstice on Thursday so from Friday we can all gloomily say, “The nights are drawing in”. Or is that just me? :-)

strip near EGGW
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