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CBIR vs American FAA IR & conversion to CBIR

I learned some Q-codes during my PPL training in 1995. QDR, QDM, QNH and QFE are those that we did learn. Later, in France I learned QFU (runway in use) which is used extensively.

LFPT, LFPN

Agreed, Aviation Exam is very usefull.

EHTE, Netherlands

GA_Pete wrote:

If I’m completely honest having an IR and flying 80 to 100 hrs a year isn’t going to be me I reckon on around 50 max but the alternative is to give up flying so I do want to make this work somehow. But as I first said std home study has failed me. Perhaps I could try Peters method of just hitting the QB alone……

I read the supplied study material a few times for the CBIR. I only did it as a passenger flying commercially, as I had little time to do it at home. Did not spend that many hours on it.
AviationExam fixed the rest. Now I don’t see it as a system where you learn the answers to the questions but you learn the way they are frased and the main topics and there is a clear explanation to the answers. The effective way for me was to use AE to focus the study on the things I had wrong. I can’t remember exactly but there is settings in AE to focus on this and that will rapidly increase your score.

pmh
ekbr ekbi, Denmark

Bobo wrote:

Bearing to and from a station. They are household abbreviations here in NL.

Magnetic bearing to a station is QDM. Magnetic bearing from a station is QDR. There is no QDS, AFAIU.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

NCYankee wrote:

What is QDR or QDS. I haven’t run across those acronyms in 48 years of instrument flying?

Bearing to and from a station. They are household abbreviations here in NL.

EHTE, Netherlands

Dimme wrote:

QUJ = True bearing To a station (The odd one)

Yes. I can see the use for the other three, but not this one. At least not outside the polar regions.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Funnily enough,
I learned to use the NDB early on in my flying days, and when learning for the IMC rating, always used to keep my mouth shut at the point when an instructor said “you’re not going to like it but we need to do some holds and NDB procedures”.

I’m no wizard and would never claim to be, but it used to put a smile on my face when said instructors would comment that I seemed to pick it up quite well.

United Kingdom

QDM = Magnetic bearing To a station (QD Mage, requires Swedish to remember)
QDR = Magnetic bearing From a station (QD Rygg, requires Swedish to remember)
QUJ = True bearing To a station (The odd one)
QTE = True bearing From a station (The “T” in Q T E is NOTTo”)

Last Edited by Dimme at 19 Mar 13:12
ESME, ESMS

RobertL18C wrote:

There is a certain sniffiness among UK ATOs towards the FAA IR which in my view is totally unfounded. However for the UK the FAA IR route will leave you unprepared for the UK’s predilection towards the NDB, and in particular the NDB Hold. ATC in the UK is a bit different and some examiners pick up on this

I did an NDB hold and an OEI NDB approach on my FAA IR test, although that was around 20 years ago. He gave me the engine failure by switching the fuel off. It was certainly realistic. Nobody ever did that to me in any EASA test, although I have shut engines down in LPCs

Darley Moor, Gamston (UK)
I think they are purely UK Royal Air Force (and thus UK PPL training) concepts. I don’t remember QDR and have never heard of QDS. QDM is the only one I recall and it was the magnetic bearing TO (or FROM?) the aerodrome. They are of no real use today.

The Q codes were an international standard. Very few of them are in regular use today.

QDR is one of them – it is included in the EASA IR and CPL syllabi. I don’t think there was a QDS code.

Last Edited by Airborne_Again at 19 Mar 08:45
ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden
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