“the CAA implementation is actually really well written and a really flexible piece of regulation”
So flexible that it screwed the Jersey Aero Club because the UK amended retained EU law post-Brexit to restrict DTOs to the UK. Previously, a UK DTO could be established in any territory for which the UK was responsible under the Chicago Convention.
You can use you sub-ICAO licence to fly a certified a/c within the UK.
Good point.
One should also be able to have the IMCR with the PMD. Otherwise the (indisputable) safety case for the PMD makes no sense.
An IR with the PMD would be politically way too hot a potato.
Part-DTO and the CAA implementation is actually really well written and a really flexible piece of regulation – a one person sole trader freelancer can register as a DTO with a simple form and a few hundred quid right now – the CAA make it very clear it can all be a one person set up, look down the lists and there are plenty listed. I feel a bit sorry for the CAA that people in industry still continue to moan on this one to be honest when they have tried to make it as easy as possible..
@xtophe – the point is that they are proposing NPPL and LAPL can add IMC/IRR which opens the way to a permit IFR aircraft, using a NPPL/LAPL + IMC/IRR and PMD potentially… pretty potent capability allowance
@bathman – the IMC training and testing is a grey area, CAP804 actually used to prohibit it and FEH advises against it, you could find yourself being looked at as an FE if you routinely did it I think…
Peter wrote:
Allow sub-ICAO licence holders to obtain an IMC rating. This makes perfect sense, despite the LAA IFR approval programme running incredibly slowly (or not at all – does anyone know?)
I’m not sure I understand your link with the LAA IFR programme. You can use you sub-ICAO licence to fly a certified a/c within the UK.
Thomas28 wrote:
Wouldn’t that make it harder to convert
The EASA regulation don’t make differences on where the ICAO compliant licence you want to convert has been issued. All that matter is that the UK CAA kees the PPL ICAO compliant.
If I remember correctly
An IMC rating, is added to a UK none part FCL PPL the instructor can test their student.
An IR(R) is added to a part FCL PPL the instructor can’t test their student.
Excellent points; getting training in own plane has always required delicate footwork, and contacts.
The guy in the book Propellerhead got his PPL “freelance”, in the 1980s…
CAA are not so keen on the instructor and examiner being the same person
I recall that from my PPL in 2000. Had to be different people, but the IMCR could be trained and examined by the same person.
Peter wrote:
That would amaze me… I know the PPL was doable largely outside a school building in the 1980s and before. Maybe they have just discovered this loophole…
PPL training with an independent instructor was allowed right until we joined JAR.
Yes the IMC can still be done with an independent instructor. And I feel forcing it to be done under a DTO is a retrograde move. There is no such thing as a DTO under ICAO so the whole lot is gold plating from the start.
Plus most DTO will want you to use their aircraft so won’t put your aircraft on their approval. They also won’t have staff that can fly something like a Europa either.
I’m doing the IR(R) with a freelance instructor. He did say that recently the CAA are not so keen on the instructor and examiner being the same person, so I might have to do the test with someone else. Hopefully I have an aeroplane again before there is any ATO/DTO requirement.
That would amaze me… I know the PPL was doable largely outside a school building in the 1980s and before. Maybe they have just discovered this loophole…
