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Another one for anoraks: USENET - a trip back in time

It will probably not impress you because it needs a human to install it but you can at least take a look at it:

https://caddyserver.com/

ESME, ESMS

Indeed, but there are degrees of what I would call “defensive practices”.

Building a “house of cards” is great for IT staff job security because something is always blowing up and needs to be fixed.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

No IT system works indefinitely.

ESME, ESMS

Yes; I know about that. You set up a cron job for certificate renewal. That works automatically, until one day it stops, and then you have to pay somebody by the hour to dig around and find out why it stopped Often, the certificate issuer has vanished, changed its API, etc.

Of course those who get paid by the hour to do IT work are very happy about this. One certificate issuer I saw the other day expires its certs after 90 days, and put out a long blurb about why this is good practice, blah blah blah.

Now try running a community site, donation funded… I am fortunate to have some good volunteer help but some tasks require root access and one can’t hand those credentials out to just anybody. And all of those have to be paid for – hundreds of € per day. The moment anybody needs to be paid at a commercial rate, the cost of that dwarfs the cost of hosting the site.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Certbot installs and keeps certificates on your site up to date automatically.

Last Edited by Dimme at 19 Nov 17:09
ESME, ESMS

You still have to install new certificates on the server…

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

I had to migrate peter2000.co.uk and some other stuff to https. That is actually a hassle because the certificates expire and none of the solutions are hassle-free.

letsencrypt.org is pretty hassle-free. Renewals are fully automated, one doesn’t even need to push a button.

ELLX

Fidonet, good old days..

2:200/178 IIRC 😁

Last Edited by martin-esmi at 15 Nov 21:55

Yes indeed; “anorak” is derogatory if used to describe somebody else, but I referred to myself as an “anorak” so that should make it ok in this case

I too don’t like the anti-nerd attitude which has always been fashionable among the “thicko classes”. Practically all people who have ever achieved anything of value are people who are able to focus on something for long enough to get it solved, and they get called “nerds”.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I found anorak to be a derogatory term in the UK when I first moved here. Used by slightly “cool” people to put other “nerdy” people in a place. I don’t like it.

Urban dictionary is often your friend: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anorak

EGL*, United Kingdom
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