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FAA IFR 6 Months grace period

The flight review and IPC endorsements can only be given by the holder of a US flight instructor certificate with the appropriate ratings. That authority is conferred by 14 CFR 61.3(d)(ii) on US certificate holders only. Other ICAO instructors can only give the endorsement described in para (d)(iii) of that section, as stated in para (b) of section 61.41: “A flight instructor described in paragraph (a) of this section is only authorized to give endorsements to show training given.”

See also 62 FR 40888 (amendment 61-103), preamble to final (corrected) rules, 3rd column discussing section 61.3.

London, United Kingdom

The last item in that list is quite interesting. I wonder what an example might be?

Normally the FAA allow any (non FAA certified) instructor to do training, outside the US, but for the BFR and the IPC they do not – thread.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

AFAIK you don’t need a valid FAA PPL or an FAA medical, in order to maintain the 6/6 FAA IR rolling currency by flying IAPs on the privileges of some other papers. Or by flying with an instructor, in which case you don’t need any license or medical whatsoever

This is one of the nice areas where the FAA regulations tend to keep things simple and separate, without adding unnecessary complication or dependencies.

boscomantico wrote:

The only case might be where your EASA checker happens to be a CFI-I and he signs the flight off as an IPC.

Agree.

Forget the idea of “recognize” any EASA qualifications or checks. The FAA regulations stand alone and they need to be met as such. If an IPC is required because the 6-month grace time has been exceeded, then it needs to be done per the FAA regulations by an FAA authorized person:
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The instrument proficiency check must be given by -

(i) An examiner;

(ii) A person authorized by the U.S. Armed Forces to conduct instrument flight tests, provided the person being tested is a member of the U.S. Armed Forces;

(iii) A company check pilot who is authorized to conduct instrument flight tests under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter or subpart K of part 91 of this chapter, and provided that both the check pilot and the pilot being tested are employees of that operator or fractional ownership program manager, as applicable;

(iv) An authorized instructor; or

(v) A person approved by the Administrator to conduct instrument practical tests.
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and ….
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Authorized instructor means -

(i) A person who holds a ground instructor certificate issued under part 61 of this chapter and is in compliance with § 61.217, when conducting ground training in accordance with the privileges and limitations of his or her ground instructor certificate;

(ii) A person who holds a flight instructor certificate issued under part 61 of this chapter and is in compliance with § 61.197, when conducting ground training or flight training in accordance with the privileges and limitations of his or her flight instructor certificate; or

(iii) A person authorized by the Administrator to provide ground training or flight training under part 61, 121, 135, or 142 of this chapter when conducting ground training or flight training in accordance with that authority.

Last Edited by chflyer at 08 Apr 10:43
LSZK, Switzerland

Got it. Need to check with him if he’s also faa CFII. The program of IPC seems very very similar to my easa check flights.

Switzerland

The approaches and holds flown can count towards your currency requirements, but it is not enough to become FAA current (I assume you do only fly 2, and not 6 approaches during that flight).

The only case might be where your EASA checker happens to be a CFI-I and he signs the flight off as an IPC.

Last Edited by boscomantico at 08 Apr 06:33
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

I have an EASA CBIR and piggy back FAA IR (“Based on”). does my yearly EASA Instrument Proficiency Check (EASA Examiner, EASA Plane) automatically reset my 6 months window for FAA proficiency requirements? Example: EASA IPC is on 1st May, zero approaches and zero holdings in previous 6 months. Am I good to go to fly solo IFR in FAA world or will they not acknowledge the EASA IPC?

Switzerland

AdamFrisch wrote:

Can you in month 7 fly that 1 approach? No, because you were out of approaches by end of 6 when you looked back.

Once you have completed the 6th approach in the 7th month, you are good to go for the 7th month to act as PIC under IFR for subsequent flights, because the look back period includes any approaches in the 7th month plus any approaches in the 6 prior calendar months (the look back). The approach in the 7th month would have to be with a safety pilot or another pilot acting as PIC, because you are not authorized to act as PIC until you have accumulated the 6 approaches.

Last Edited by NCYankee at 27 Apr 14:00
KUZA, United States

prob99 30th of Jun, 2019

Last Edited by wleferrand at 26 Apr 20:49

As i succeeded my FAA Instrument exam on 6 June 2018, i have until 6 June 2019 or 30 June 2019 to regain currency without an IPC ?

LFMD, France

It’s a “look back” compliance (I will ignore the intercept/tracking as that happens automatically as part of almost all approaches). Here’s a compliance example:

Month 1: You flew no approaches.
Month 2: You flew 1 approach and 1 hold
Month 3: You flew 1 approach.
Month 4: You flew no approaches.
Month 5: You flew 3 approaches.
Month 6: You flew no approaches.
Month 7: You flew 1 approaches.

Can you in month 7 fly that 1 approach? No, because you were out of approaches by end of 6 when you looked back. So let’s say you went to a sim and got that approach. Month 8, can you fly? No, because you were out of a hold when you looked back. So, logic would suggest, you’ll need to do a hold each month to be able to always be sure you can look back 6 months at any given time and be compliant. At least that’s how I approach it, but I don’t live what I preach – always a mad scramble to get compliance in in the sim each 6 month period!

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