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If complete muppetry and change to training methods is all that some have learnt from AF447 I hope they are limited to GA pilots and do not hold any position in CAT in general.

France

Out of topic, but the video about Alaska airline guy who tried to stop both engine is also very informative and sorrowful… Another good one.

LFMD, France

Cobalt wrote:

This is vastly different from the AF447 crash where learning about the full extent of muppetry in the cockpit led to improved training so recovering the recorders was worth it.

This is really oversimplification.

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

I agree that deliberate act is the most likely, and finding the wreckage may not be very useful.

But remember that air travel security has improved precisely because investigators always searched for the point of failure and something to improve (regulation, procedures, training, screening etc.). There IS a point of failure because putting the lives of citizens in the hands of someone looking to commit suicide is not really socially acceptable. It may not be worth it to search, but it’s certainly not useless.

As for the CVR, I’d presume if the CVR was disabled, the other pilot would have probably been killed already in order to disable it (depending on where the breaker is). Whatever happened before would still have been recorded, we would possibly know who is responsible (by knowing who exited the cockpit). If the CVR kept working, it would still be useful to get the last 2 hours where it worked (especially if it’s up to the crash, because you can get an idea of the violence of the ditching and if the engines were running ; maybe also some breathing or other noises).

France

“an idea of the violence of the ditching and if the engines were running”

The recovered flaperon shows damage caused by in-flight separation which is consistent with fuel exhaustion.

London, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Actually I believe the biggest usage of VPNs is among the 10000000 Brits sitting in Costa del Sol and wanting to watch the BBC on Iplayer, which they can’t since the BBC blocks non-UK IPs

Guilty as charged – although not the Costa and not a Brit anymore :)

EHLE / Lelystad, Netherlands, Netherlands

Qalupalik wrote:

The recovered flaperon shows damage caused by in-flight separation which is consistent with fuel exhaustion.

Wasn’t it post-crash separation when hitting water surface?

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

MH370 Flaperon Inboard Hinge—Finite Element Analysis (FEA). Tom Kenyon. Nov. 2020.

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London, United Kingdom

Qalupalik wrote:

MH370 Flaperon Inboard Hinge—Finite Element Analysis (FEA). Tom Kenyon. Nov. 2020.

Thanks. According to this, there’s no way controlled flight was conducted until impacting the water as it was suggested previously in this thread.

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

I don’t get what that analysis tells us.

I would expect a deployed flap to be ripped off on a water landing, and if someone was trying to disappear without leaving debris they would do a water landing with flaps, because with zero flaps the approach speed is much higher.

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