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Lancair IVP-T Propjet D-EKMW - is the 1200nm+ range real, and can it fly IFR?

Peter wrote:

But these two are N-reg

N-reg experimental homebuilt in Europe is probably the most useless of all. They aren’t registered in any ECAC state and therefore need explisit permission to cross borders.

Peter wrote:

unlike this Lancair IVP which being D-reg almost certainly is VFR-only.

Highly doubtful. Operational restrictions and restrictions put on the aircraft are not the same thing. It’s the OUV that organizes homebuilding in Germany. Lots of info there. This is the basics. It also includes an example of the form to be filled out to get a CofA or approval by the CAA (my German isn’t 100% ). You have to check if the aircraft has equipment for VFR and IFR.

The aircraft certainly could be VFR only, depending on what the owner has checked. But it could also equally well be both VFR and IFR. Looks to be exactly as in Norway, only dependent on the installed instruments and avionics.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

LeSving wrote:

The aircraft certainly could be VFR only, depending on what the owner has checked. But it could also equally well be both VFR and IFR. Looks to be exactly as in Norway, only dependent on the installed instruments and avionics.

Right, so German-reg aircraft could be IFR?
What about other European (EU/non-EU) aircraft requesting IFR overflight permission?
Last time I heard it was impossible, as the rule was that it can only be granted to EASA PtF, but not the NCAA.
And with Spain it is even worse – you have to request permission anyway VFR/IFR.

EGTR

Which German body approves D amateur built aircraft?

It should be well known by the many German pilots here. For example the UK system is run by the LAA and everyone can find out about their (extremely slow) IFR approval programme.

In the US experimental system the process for getting IFR approval is well known.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

bq.Which German body approves D amateur built aircraft?

The LBA has the final word on approvals.

T28
Switzerland

Looks to be exactly as in Norway, only dependent on the installed instruments and avionics.

Not really. An IFR approval in Germany is quite involved and requires use of certified parts. The build is close to CS23 standards.

T28
Switzerland

T28 wrote:

An IFR approval in Germany is quite involved and requires use of certified parts.

(airframe) parts or instruments/avionics?

EGTR

Engine, ignition systems and avionics.

T28
Switzerland

T28 wrote:

Engine, ignition systems and avionics.

Does it have to be a D-reg, or could it be from other country?

EGTR

Not sure I get the question – German authorities only certify local builds for airworthiness, and will issue a German registry entry.

T28
Switzerland

The bottom line is that this Lanc IVP is prob99 VFR-only – worldwide.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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