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The important trip: Gloucestershire (EGBJ) to Kassel (EDVK)

Congratulations Stephan! Please, do tell the story!

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

Congratulations Stephan!

The first flight in a owned airplane is always one to remember.

I do wish you all the best with your new airplane, lots of fun and great trips!

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

… and here is the account of the flight with lots of pictures:

I plan on writing about the market search, the ups and downs of it, as well as what happened until I finally took delivery over the next few days.

Frequent travels around Europe

That would be an interesting read. Did you buy the plane from the UK dealer?

Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Cirrus UK had the ad up on but I never visited them. Only emails and two phone calls. Everything was done via email and with a personal visit to RGV at Gloucester where I got a warm welcome and very good attention. RGV had the pleasure to install a new exhaust system – it’s an upgrade kit – amongst other things. Everything engine related is supposed to be basically as new.

Frequent travels around Europe

Regarding TKS I find it takes several minutes for fluid to come out and initially it will only come out in certain areas before the whole leading edge becomes covered. It’s good to know how long it takes as obviously it’s only a preventative measure so you must think ahead.

I also believe it’s recommended to use the system frequently to prevent blockages…

Last Edited by Roger at 05 Apr 16:27

It’s good to know how long it takes as obviously it’s only a preventative measure so you must think ahead.

It’s not only a preventive measure. TKS works as de-ice as well as anti-ice. Or at least in TB20 installations.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

The Socata owner’s group contains many posts, and I have some more in email, from TB owners whose prop TKS pump seized up due to lack of use.

This equipment is of poor quality – despite the extortionate pricing – and needs to be kept in good condition.

But, to be fair, there probably aren’t many systems used to pump a “sticky messy liquid”, which will work after a year of non-use, in any industrial application. And the laser-drilled holes in the leading edge strips are awfully tiny and easily blocked.

Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Try to wash the panels with TKS fluid carefully from the outside and use the system a couple of times on your next flights. Probably the system was not used for a long time. I run mine every two months and it works ok, and yours is the improved G3 version anway. Normally the system is pretty bulletproff – but the the sponges behind the titanum panels tend to dry out if not used. The TKS filter has to be changed regularly ($ 200 …)


Over the years, tons of SR22 operators have reported problems with the outboard TKS panels.

In some cases, the problem was easily fixed: you need to run the system at freezing or below freezing temps. If it’s too warm, the fluid’s viscosity will not be right and it will all ooze out on the first few feet of travel.

However, I guess you were well below freezing on that flight at FL150, so if you really did run it long enough, then something else is wrong. I don’t exactly remember what the cure was in the other cases where people reported problems, but the filters were not.

My feeling is that these problems always come from the system not having been run frequently enough. I would suspect this is a particular problem with aircraft for sale, because, as we know, from the moment the owner decides to sell until the buyer flies it home, a half year or so can pass easily, without any use of the system.

I am not a huge fan of the TKS system.
a) the fluid is expensive
b) it’s a finite resource onboard
c) it’s necessary to run it every 30 days (I do it every 45 days but wouldn’t extend it any much more)
d) every time you run it, the aircraft will be a total mess. Only way out: run it early in the flight and thereafter fly through a 3-minute+ shower.

Last Edited by boscomantico at 05 Apr 17:40
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany
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