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As seen from the train, the tracks represent the boundary one must not cross (due to the adjacent military airfield).

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Last Edited by Snoopy at 14 Sep 11:28
always learning
LO__, Austria

09 is indeed tight and catches many by surprise. Good job you managed it even with a go around before!

always learning
LO__, Austria

Snoopy wrote:

Great to hear! LOAN is a fine microcosm of Austrian GA.
Did you get RWY09 ;) ?

We did After having spent almost 2:30h at FL100, enjoying the views and clouds, I suffered the good old “what happened, I am suddenly next to the airport” feeling. We looked too far ahead and were for a short moment a bit confused of which airport was actually LOAN, after having dropped IFR and being VFR. When on downwind and about to turn base for Rwy 09 we were told we were number two, which made it impossible to continue with the approach so we had to go around from base and make another circuit. It’s a pretty tight circuit for 09 :)

Last Edited by martin-esmi at 14 Sep 07:41

Great to hear! LOAN is a fine microcosm of Austrian GA.
Did you get RWY09 ;) ?

always learning
LO__, Austria

Hey all,

Just a short follow-up. We ended up with a fantastic weekend in Vienna, we arrived at LOAN on Friday afternoon. The airport staff was very efficient and friendly, we had refuelled and paid the fees in no-time. Vienna gave us blue skies and 27 degrees :)

Before departure, we had the pleasant surprise of one of the test pilots for Diamond were sitting in a brand new DA50 just next to our aircraft. So we started talking with him and ended up with a 20 minute briefing of the DA50 and a tour of the factory together with the production manager (I believe). Amazing!

All-in-all, a very nice visit. The airport is friendly (even without the bonus visit to Diamond), and the trains from Wiener Neustadt to Wien HBF runs frequently.

I’ll do a write-up as soon as time allows! :)

Cheers!

Sorry for the spamming, just a short follow-up. I’ve emailed with LOAN Airport and nothing seems to be required from the airport, i.e., the document that LOAV wants to be submitted before arrival does not apply for LOAN. The airport does not require PPR either (as I understood the AIP stated).

Snoopy wrote:

When is your flight? Right now there is a bit of nuisance in the form of a restricted area due to a political summit.

We are planning to depart on Friday, September 10th. It seems that the restriction areas end on September 9th 16:00Z (AIP SUP 007/21). Thanks for mentioning it, could have been very negative if we would have missed that

Last Edited by martin-esmi at 08 Sep 12:13

Thanks a lot @Fabian for your support, much appreciated.

I will contact the airport and check directly with them, I hope they will know. What I find a bit confusing is

  • HTTPS://TINYURL.COM/ATPTCEN → clearly state that no PTC required, and is available in English
  • HTTPS://TINYURL.COM/PTCFORMAT → no information on where I should submit this form, but I suppose I can use the link above instead
  • LOAV is clear about their PDF on the website, just as you mention, but LOAN does not have any mentioning of a similar requirement. On their web page they refer to NOTAM A1357/21 – which does not seem to be a valid NOTAM at the moment. Current NOTAMs are about masts and IFR Cloudbreaking procedures.

I’ll reach out to them directly and check, thanks again!

Last Edited by martin-esmi at 08 Sep 09:49

From my understanding no understanding no PTC required but the following two forms are required:

According to the active NOTAM, which you’ve probably seen.

A1790/21 NOTAMR A1406/21
Q) LOVV/QFAAP/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4758N01616E005
A) LOAV B) 2107010816 C) 2109291000 EST
E) COVID-19
THE REPUBLIC OF AUSTRIA, FEDERAL MINISTRY FOR HEALTH HAS ENACTED
FOLLOWING REGULATION CONCERNING THE ENTRY INTO AUSTRIA BY AIR IN
RESPECT OF SARS-COV-2 / COVID-19:

1) IF ARRIVING TO AUSTRIA, PAX AND CREW HAVE TO FILE AN ELECTRONIC
FORM BEFORE ARRIVAL AT
HTTPS://TINYURL.COM/ATPTCEN
ENGLISH: HTTPS://TINYURL.COM/PTCFORMAT

2) IF ARRIVING TO LOAV, PAX AND CREW HAVE TO FILE AN FORM BEFORE
ARRIVAL AT
HTTPS://WWW.LOAV.AT
AND SEND THIS FORM TO: TOWER.LOAV(AT)VIENNAAIRPORT.COM
BEFORE ARRIVAL

both are required.

From my understanding Sweden is an Annex 1 (which I guess is Annex A in the form, what a mess … ) country as of Today.
So in that form it would be that exemption, but the registration is still rqrd.

The website loav.at also reiterates the second part of the NOTAM:

17.08.2021
Einreisebestimmungen:
Im Moment besteht noch die Notwendigkeit , für jeden grenzüberschreitenden EINFLUG nach Österreich das Formular Zoll/Passkontrolle /jart/prj3/loav_2018/uploads/data-uploads/Zollanmeldung_Passkontrolle_NEU2021.pdf ausgefüllt an [email protected] vor dem Einflug zu übersenden.

rough translation:
Currently it’s still required for every cross border flight into Austria to submit the form /jart/prj3/loav_2018/uploads/data-uploads/Zollanmeldung_Passkontrolle_NEU2021.pdf for customs/passport checks by email to [email protected] before entry into Austrian airspace.

and I’ve recently heard people being reminded of this on the radio too.

Would also be best to confirm when arriving either via radio or phone whether the police actually showed up for the check or if you’re free to go.

Fly for your dreams
LOAV

No PTC (pre travel clearance) required.
I’d recommend to email or call LOAN/LOAV if there are any peculiarities. Both reply within minutes.
When is your flight? Right now there is a bit of nuisance in the form of a restricted area due to a political summit.

always learning
LO__, Austria
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