Good news! Wanted to get the EIR for a while now…
The linked to document makes reference to appendix 7 which is not part of the PDF. Does anybody know where to find it or is that a part that hasn’t been defined yet?
The linked document is just the CHANGES to Part-FCL, so you have to look at Part-FCL and alter or insert the paragraphs as defined in the regulation 245/2014
If appendix 7 is not down to be amended then the previous version stands, so look at Part-FCL for Appendix 7, which I think is the test standards for the IR
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:311:0001:0193:EN:PDF
£150 sounds about right, hence the £785 initial fee to the CAA seeming rather steep. This is semi-understandable for a professional rating, but still an obvious money grab. One would hope that the initial EIR might not be quite that much.
The problem here is not the amount of the charge, close to £1000. The problem is the system.
No professional person is going to
and have the (large) company employing him on (a wild guess) £80k plus a car, bill the customer for less than £1000 for what is basically an all day job. That is just how business overheads add up.
The real problem is that freelance people can’t do these tests.
In the USA, most initial tests are done by freelance examiners (DPEs) who get paid something like $300-400. They tend to be locally based so can do a couple of tests in the one day, or looking at it differently they can do the test in a few hours total and the rest of the day can be productively spent running the flying school or whatever.
A few tests are done by salaried FAA examiners who get paid by the US taxpayer. These are very rare – they tend to be initial CFI/CFII tests.
Any tests done in Europe by national CAA employees, and where the test fee is say €300, are just heavily taxpayer subsidised. While that is very nice, and very nice for the customer, it isn’t a long term sustainable position in the “modern society” because, as any proper N. European champagne socialist will tell you, it is a transfer of wealth from those to whom life opportunities have been forcefully denied, to those born with a silver spoon in their mouth [looking for a massive tongue in cheek emoticon]
All the time any tests are done by CAA employees, they will cost a fortune.
The real problem is that freelance people can’t do these tests.
“Freelance people” can do these tests. All you need is an IRE.
Initial CB IR and EIR tests will be doable by a freelance IRE/CRR?
There is no such thing as an “IRE/CRR?” There is an IRE, who can conduct skill tests and proficiency checks, and there are CREs who have the privilege of conducting proficiency checks for the IR (for revalidation or renewal). All of them can be freelance: it’s just a rating. The difference for the skill test is that the NAA can, in principle, designate the examiner. But that doesn’t mean that the examiner is an NAA employee.
I wrote it wrong. I meant CRE/IRR. One of these can do my annual IR revalidation, freelance.
He told me he can get the extra paper to do initial IR tests – to become what here in the UK is called an “industry examiner”. But he won’t because it is another 5k/year which he won’t recover.
Also, industry examiners here charge the same as CAA employed examiners – about £800 for the IR test.
Otherwise, I don’t understand your post, bookworm. In the context of a freelance person, the fee would be about £200. Are you saying this can be achieved for an initial IR test?
If so, how exactly would it be done?
An IR conversion candidate doesn’t have to fly at an FTO. What are his options for the oral+test?
An IR ab initio candidate does have to fly at an FTO (10hrs min). What are his options for the test? Doesn’t the examiner have to be “supplied by” the FTO – like the present 170A test system where the examiner must be approved via that specific FTO?
__ In the context of a freelance person, the fee would be about £200. Are you saying this can be achieved for an initial IR test?__
Not yet, but I’m working on it. ;)
