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Peter wrote:
European champagne socialists
What’s that? (Serious question. I see no correlation between the ideologies of governments and lockdowns.)
Airborne_Again wrote:
What’s that? (Serious question. I see no correlation between the ideologies of governments and lockdowns.)
The term “Champaign Socialists” refer to politicians who subscribe to socialist ideas but do so while observing the actual plebs from their high horse while discussing their ideas sipping Veuve Cliquot and munching Kaviar sandwhiches.
Some people mention Marie Antoinette (Let them eat cake) as the prototype for todays would be Lenin’s.
Mooney_Driver wrote:
The term “Champaign Socialists” refer to politicians who subscribe to socialist ideas but do so while observing the actual plebs from their high horse while discussing their ideas sipping Veuve Cliquot and munching Kaviar sandwhiches.Some people mention Marie Antoinette (Let them eat cake) as the prototype for todays would be Lenin’s.
Well, yes. That’s what I would have expected, but it doesn’t make sense in the context as it was hardly “socialists” — “champaign” or not — who decided on the lockdowns in the UK. For example.
My reference was the fashionable European criticism of US policy.
Airborne_Again wrote:
Well, yes. That’s what I would have expected, but it doesn’t make sense in the context as it was hardly “socialists” — “champaign” or not — who decided on the lockdowns in the UK. For example.
Champagne Socialists is probably not quite the right term but I can see what he’s getting at. Lockdowns are/were principally implemented by people who have little or no stake in the real economy, i.e. they are still getting paid – usually by the taxpayer – no matter what happens.
It was suggested by some that decision makers might gain more perspective if the implementation of any lockdown-type policy came with a caveat that during such times all taxpayer-funded salaries would track some measure of economic growth or activity in the private sector.
Graham wrote:
It was suggested by some that decision makers might gain more perspective if the implementation of any lockdown-type policy came with a caveat that during such times all taxpayer-funded salaries would track some measure of economic growth or activity in the private sector.
If you have a system like the UK NHS you should think twice before implementing such a scheme.
Wilco wrote:
Three officers with guns turned up
I do find the fascination on this forum with police officers carrying guns interesting. there are only 18 nations in the world (12 of which are Pacific micro-states like NZ) as well as on US State (US Virgin Islands) where the police don’t carry guns. The VAST majority of the world have proper police without the population living in constant fear of being shot…
LFHNflightstudent wrote:
The VAST majority of the world have proper police without the population living in constant fear of being shot…
Well, you can question if “proper police” always have to be armed and not just when the situation demands it. And I would say that a very large proportion of the USA population do live in “constant fear of being shot” whenever they have an encounter with the police, for whatever reason.
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I spot the lack of time problem in many of your posts. Doesn’t sound like a good life. You can’t go and fly your own plane one hour per week?
What is the problem in your opinion? Didn’t the swiss vote against one extra week of annual vacation?
Snoopy wrote:
What is the problem in your opinion? Didn’t the swiss vote against one extra week of annual vacation?
you got a PM.
In general, full time employee with additional stand by time when you have to be at work within 60 mins plus a family to take care of. I could do with 48 hours a day and it won’t be enough. The only spare time I find occasionally (mostly while waiting for something/someone) is not enough for flying but allows some social exchange such as here.
Vaccations are not the answer, as they usually heighten the stress rather than lower it when you have the kids at home and still need to do all the work you have anyway. In my case, vaccations mean additional workload as we have to take care of other private business during that time, usually work available for at least 4 times the time I have available.
The Swiss voted also against it because they felt that the economy was under enough financial strain and our rather high salaries are a function of the balance between work and vaccations (quite a lot btw, between 4 and 6 weeks age dependent) we already have. And I would not be surprised if some folks voted against it because they could not stand the thought of another week or so high stress environment, they are much better off at work.
