Yes, you need to book a slot when the system is acessable. Usually the best slots are taken within an hour or so. You can go without but have to be prepared to be denied and – IIRC have to pay a “penalty” if you are allowed to land without a slot. The fact that they didn’t have the grass strip available last year did’t help either – I have no information about this year. Last year I had to wait for the fuel bowser (100LL/Jet-A only) for 45 minutes. Chaotic scenes during departure… I considered to go to Mengen instead and take a shuttle or rental car to the fare instead. But I won’t make it with my aircraft this year – as you know ;-)
I wrote:
Friedrichshafen have just told me that I need slots for the Tuesday and Sunday :-(
Now they have clarified:
Now the information desk forwarded your message to me to check if everything is correct.
Well, PPR is required again during the exhibition days (only).
BUT: The procedures for arrival and departure are in force from 08APR until 14APR (both days included).
You’ll find the procedures (AIP SUP IFR/VFR) here: https://www.dfs.de/dfs_homepage/de/Services/Customer%20Relations/Kundenbereich%20VFR/14.03.2019%20-%20PPR%20AERO%202019/
Hope this will answer most of your questions finally
So slots are not required for Tuesday and Sunday, but you do need to follow the special procedures.
europaxs wrote:
Yes, you need to book a [VFR] slot when the system is acessable.
Note that you don’t need a slot for VFR departures. Also not for VFR arrivals after 19:20 local time. However, for evening arrivals you must still register in the slot system for a time later than 19:20, but what time doesn’t matter and there will be an unlimited number of such pseudo-slots available. Info here: https://aero-ppr.bodensee-airport.eu/login/loginstart.aspx
Am I correct in understanding that the slot-reservation fee will be deducted from your “landing fee”.
Example: MTOW 1.6T aircraft without noise-certificate. Pays €35 for the slot and on arrival €37 (€72 -€35). Is that right?
Also do people generally have noise certificates (?)
TimR wrote:
Also do people generally have noise certificates (?)
Flying in Germany gets very expensive without one.
Local copy of above
TCDSN_EASA_IM_A_007_Issue_10_pdf
Many German airports don’t need a noise cert, so it depends on where you fly to.
TimR wrote:
Is this enough as proof?
I would guess not, as the guy in the tower or the office is not going to inspect what prop you have. I think that he will want to see an aircraft specific one. They often take a copy.
However, some small airfields have had noise restrictions and charges placed on them, and they are very much on our side, not the authorities’. They don’t want to charge a lot and drive people away. In those circumstances I have known them to “make an error” when inputting the noise category into the fees computer. (No, I am not going to name any!)
Does EDNY want to see a noise certificate? Here they did not.
The thing which caught me in the past where these were required to get a reduced landing fee (Germany and Switzerland) was that while I keep it in the back of the plane, I always forgot to bring it with me, and getting back airside to the plane was too much of a hassle.
