tschnell wrote:
Do you have a source that these goods were actually in transit (i.e. originating from a third state and merely passing through Germany)?
That is how it was repeatedly reported by our crisis team on their daily briefings. They were talking of shipping containers which were on the way from a german port (Hamburg if I am not mistaken) to us.
Mooney_Driver wrote:
That is how it was repeatedly reported by our crisis team on their daily briefings
Well, so no “source” then. Sorry to say, but with that kind of non-evidence I find statements from you like this
Germany needs to get their act together if they don’t want to be single handedly responsible for the complete destruction of any European trust between countries which has taken 50+ years to accomplish. Currently the government there is acting in the worst possible way.
a little bit harsh, don’t you think? Even in these challenging times I have enough trust in my country’s institutions that somethig like “confiscating” goods in transit does not happen, and there certainly is no legal basis for it. Now, export control is a completely different matter, and I am sure you understand the difference.
Speaking of the German or other situations. I saw something the other day and now can no longer find a news reference. I did eventually find this youtube clip. Apparently the police were present and not doing anything to break it up. It seems as if this cannot be helpful.
Much in the way I find it odd the police going after people in cars or having a walk even if well socially distanced. Yet you see pictures of packed london underground stations / trains.
Moved to the OT/politics thread.
The above post is really borderline for EuroGA. Yes it is likely the police are not willing to disperse religious groups for obvious reasons, but can we not have any more posts like this? They add no information. Any more, and they will be deleted.
We already get complaints about “right wing” posts, notwithstanding that most personal attacks are written by “left wing” posters.
I did wonder about posting this, but thought it was something valid to discuss in relation to the present social distancing / lockdown. Policing groups differently I don’t think will end well.
Much as causing people to self censor totally shuts down meaningful debate and discussion.
I didn’t mean wing of politics to be in my comment. It was just an observation on something that seems to have occurred, selective policing of groups is to me, extremely worrying. Much as I’m equally unhappy about the Louisiana church chap holding services. But I think the case in Europe is probably more relevant to us at the moment. South Korea had a real problem with one religious group early on if I recall correctly, although maybe that shouldn’t be mentioned either.
This was filmed in Germany where this sort of stuff is an extremely hot topic; the AFD is a serious player in the political scene there. And Germany is big in GA and we have a lot of Germans here, and probably only some are AFD supporters. EuroGA then gets slagged off on German sites. I’ve already had to deal with that in the past, thanks to certain past posters.
Anybody who participates in groupings like that at present time is stupid, and there are lots of stupid people everywhere. One could have made a similar video in any big city park.
OTOH, Korea is not significant in GA.
What does any of this discussion have to do with GA? At least this thread concentrates the off-topic/political discussions into a single thread. IMHO discussion should nonetheless be limited in some way to GA otherwise we’ll lose members or the entire site will be subject to, perhaps justified, criticism as just another place for people to vent and spread their political leanings as mentioned by @Peter. There are enough web sites for that that we don’t need them here too.
Emir wrote:
You’re really persistent in trying to prove your case using non-existing arguments.
This seems to be exactly what you do. Claims about Trump killing people by them overdosing on chloroquine, etc,
Like or not the Nazi’s were national socialists. Employment for all through big public work schemes, Strength through Joy giving workers increased benefits, large state from 4 weeks up, nationalised healthcare, strong gun control, blaming the one percent, elites , jews , having a police state, gestapo looking for political dissidents / enemies of the people. All pretty socialist.
You seem to be forgetting Mao killed 45 million in four years. or maybe the North Korean famines?
I’m not saying western democracies are blameless, but at the moment they seem to be doing far better for their people and allow the most freedom of anywhere and the highest quality of life on the planet.
I for one certainly don’t want everyone to have to carry their papers and tracked social credit score to allow you to move around anywhere. Although it’s an easy way to shut down discussion from your opposing views, which is another favourite of socialists.
e: just read Peter’s comment, feel free to delete if you think inappropriate, I just don’t think it’s fair to have some pretty inaccurate thrown about without challenge
Off_Field wrote:
Like or not the Nazi’s were national socialists.
Obviously the nazis were by definition “national socialists” as they introduced the term. The question is whether this 1) means that they were “socialists” in the usual meaning of the term and 2) even if that was the case whether socialists in general should take the blame for what the Nazis did.
You haven’t seen much “soap and lampshade” production (to borrow Jacko’s expression) in western European countries ruled by social democrats, have you?
All pretty socialist.
I wonder if you know what the word means. You seem to be using it just as a slur.
Airborne_Again wrote:
I wonder if you know what the word means. You seem to be using it just as a slur.
I do know, lived there. And agree with Off_Field.
