ASEL yes. AMEL no. Aircraft ratings are endorsed pursuant to 14 CFR 61.75(c). See also 61.5.
If you require entry as a non-US national to US to acquire this certificate then you could enrol in a Part 141 multi-engine rating “add on” course for which an M-1 student visa is available. Presidential Proclamations 9993 and 9996 current prohibit most aliens from entering US if they have been in UK/ROI/Schengen Area within the 14 days before seeking admission to US. However, student visa holders (M-1 / F-1) are not prohibited. The visa appointment waiting period (link) at the embassies in London and Munich are 2 and 4 days respectively. The SEVIS form I-20M-N, a prerequisite for making the appointment, can now be received electronically owing to relaxed restrictions in light of current circumstances: no physical copy is required for the appointment. A TSA security threat assessment will also only take about 2 days at the moment.
Note that FAA ASIs cannot make appointments at FSDOs at the moment but can, at their discretion, make appointments in other locations. Simple administrative tasks such as the re-issuance of a restricted US private pilot certificate can be handled by DPEs (search here). If adding a new rating you’ll need to repeat the foreign licence verification process with the Airmen Certification Branch in Oklahoma City, which is currently processing those requests.
Thanks @qalupalik
So @ted ‘s “idea” wouldn’t work, quote:
FAR 61.63. Says you normally need an ATP or Instrument Rating to hold a type rating. Perhaps if you were especially nice you could convince the DPE to issue as 777 VFR only But I suspect they knew what your true intentions were.I would have asked for AMEL if I actually wanted it and politely asked for the regulation that prohibited me for having it, if I was so declined. IMHO 61.75 is a very generous provision. AFAIK If your a masochist you can take tests to add ratings to your 61.75, perhaps it takes a life beyond what is was intended when used outside the USA, but that is an entirely different issue.
Follow up question:
A FAA 61.75 license currently says “AMEL”.
The person gets a MEP rating on the EASA license.
How can AMEL be added to the 61.75?
Thank you very much!
Just like the ASEL. Request validation letter, send paperwork to FAA, present everything to a FSDO (or DPE), get new 61.75 with AMEL written on it.
Assume you meant the 61.75 is endorsed only with an A*S*EL? If so then as Rwy20 say. Or pass the US practical test.
Note that if you have a US standalone certificate then you also need a US medical.
With a 61.75 you can fly an N-reg on an EASA medical which is a lot easier to get in many scenarios e.g. the FAA Special Issuance is a nightmare in Europe.
Snoopy wrote:
So @ted ‘s “idea” wouldn’t work, quote:
My comment was somewhat tongue in cheek. But you won’t know it doesn’t work until you try IMHO. If the only evidence of a multi-engine class aircraft is a 737 then you will at least need an instrument rating to hold that on your 61.75. Type ratings are only available to instrument rated or ATPs only. Having never completed a check ride in an MEP and holding a AMEL is quite normal in the USA, e.g. loads of military pilots follow that pathway. I have a standard FAA ATP AMEL and never done a MEP checkride, plus and old 61.75 from a long time ago.
Doing this all from europe booking flights, Visa etc, as opposed to living in and working in the USA is likely a deciding factor in all this.
This document while doesn’t answer the question directly does suggest they will put the 737 rating on 61.75 if you pass the instrument written and ask nicely…
Start from page 258, BTW some of the content directly contradicts some of the FAA chief council opinions… 
Thanks.
This document while doesn’t answer the question directly does suggest they will put the 737 rating on 61.75 if you pass the instrument written and ask nicely…
And since there is no MEP „classificiation“ under FAA, the 737 would come together with AMEL, right? FAA 61.75 would say ASEL, AMEL, 737, IR.
Since a 737 is both a 737 type (logically, haha) and a AMEL.
FAA 61.75 would say ASEL, AMEL, 737, IR.
If I was stateside that’s what I would ask for after doing the written. I would do my homework and find out what version of 737 the rating would be equivalent. If not I would want to know what FAR prohibits this.
… there is no MEP „classificiation“ under FAA, the 737 would come together with AMEL, right?
No. Broadly, aeroplane classes are established for aeroplanes certificated for single-pilot operation and aeroplane types are established for aeroplanes certificated for operation with a minimum crew of at least two pilots. That’s the ICAO standard in Annex 1. The US regulations established aeroplane classes corresponding to the ICAO standard.
§61.5 Certificates and ratings issued under this part.
…
(b) The following ratings are placed on a pilot certificate
(other than student pilot) when an applicant satisfactorily
accomplishes the training and certification requirements
for the rating sought:
…
(2) Airplane class ratings—
(i) Single-engine land.
(ii) Multiengine land.
(iii) Single-engine sea.
(iv) Multiengine sea.
…
A restricted US private pilot certificate will only be endorsed with aircraft ratings that are either endorsed on the foreign licence or acquired under section 61.63.
§61.75 Private pilot certificate issued on the basis of a foreign pilot license.
(a) General. A person who holds a foreign pilot license
at the private pilot level or higher that was issued by a
contracting State to the Convention on International Civil
Aviation may apply for and be issued a U.S. private pilot
certificate with the appropriate ratings if the foreign pilot
license meets the requirements of this section.
…
(c) Aircraft ratings issued. Aircraft ratings listed on
a person’s foreign pilot license, in addition to any issued
after testing under the provisions of this part, may be
placed on that person’s U.S. pilot certificate for private
pilot privileges only.
The requirements for a standard US airline transport pilot certificate are different. The rules for military pilots are also different. Neither has any relevance to the interpretation of section 61.75.
Post #56 refers to FAA Order 8900.2C. That handbook contains information that is more than fifteen years out of date, eg the reference on p 7-152 to the Flight Training Candidate Checks Program that was established by the DOJ on 13 Feb 2003 in pursuance of s. 113 of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, enacted 19 Nov 2001. Responsibility for threat assessment was handed over to DHS under s 612 of the Vision 100 – Century of Aviation Reauthorization Act, enacted 12 Dec 2003, which then covered the requirement with the Alien Flight Student Program set up in Sep 2004. See TSA’s Privacy Impact Assessment for the Alien Flight Student Program. 22 Sep 2006. (pdf link).
See instead FAA Order 8900.1 vol 5 ch 2 sec 14 subpara 5-597D. The order is available on FSIMS.
5-597 U.S. PILOT CERTIFICATES THAT MAY BE ISSUED TO A PERSON WHO
HOLDS A FOREIGN PILOT LICENSE The kinds of U.S. pilot certificates that may be
issued to a person who holds a foreign pilot license in accordance with § 61.75 are:
…
D. Ratings Issued. A U.S. private pilot certificate issued on the basis of a foreign pilot
license (at least equivalent to or higher than the U.S. private pilot certification level) must
bear the § 61.5 equivalent to the ratings on the foreign pilot license (e.g., ASEL or AMEL).
[…]
You might contact AFS-810 for further guidance if none of this is clear.
Qalupalik wrote:
You might contact AFS-810 for further guidance if none of this is clear.
Good advice, what have you to loose by politely asking for them to put the type rating on after passing the written?
This may create an issue as a 737 is not ASEL… I looked up a good friend that I know only holds a 61.75 and he has type rating issued against his 61.75 so they did at one point let you put them on.
